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Old 02-15-2012, 11:56 AM
 
Location: On the edge of the universe
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I just don't get it. It seems like a troll question but I remember back in the day when Americans recognized a whole multitude of political opinions, not just the left/right spectrum. How does this left/right spectrum explain someone like me who could be called a libertarian on individual rights (no SS/Income Tax, freedom of speech and religion, no government intrusion into my private life) but as far as business regulation and government go leans more towards what the Democrat and Green parties push (regulations on business and corporations and a more democratic form of government versus what we have now)? It seems almost comical to me.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:02 PM
 
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I just don't get it. It seems like a troll question but I remember back in the day when Americans recognized a whole multitude of political opinions, not just the left/right spectrum. How does this left/right spectrum explain someone like me who could be called a libertarian on individual rights (no SS/Income Tax, freedom of speech and religion, no government intrusion into my private life) but as far as business regulation and government go leans more towards what the Democrat and Green parties push (regulations on business and corporations and a more democratic form of government versus what we have now)? It seems almost comical to me.
they are brainwashed by the 2-card monte shell game
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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It's much easier than using a thoughtful analytical approach to address a given issue.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:24 PM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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Some people have no sense of identity and a fragile sense of self-worth. Only by identifying themselves with a movement, philosophy, or sports team and filtering all their external stimuli through a lens formed by their allegiance to such, can they artificially prop up their egos.

I read 'Politics and Controversies' to study these sad people.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:26 PM
 
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Intellectual laziness. Some people take it a step further and make it Democrat versus Republican
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I just don't get it. It seems like a troll question but I remember back in the day when Americans recognized a whole multitude of political opinions, not just the left/right spectrum. How does this left/right spectrum explain someone like me who could be called a libertarian on individual rights (no SS/Income Tax, freedom of speech and religion, no government intrusion into my private life) but as far as business regulation and government go leans more towards what the Democrat and Green parties push (regulations on business and corporations and a more democratic form of government versus what we have now)? It seems almost comical to me.
People go with the flow to often. They hear something that fits their agenda and don't look into it. I was the same way. I thought the big redeeming quality of the dems was being anti war. Not so. Both parties are very similar. Who gets the benefits from my money is what changes.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:33 PM
 
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I think it's because some people simply do not take the time to verify things for themselves, and after you get the same type of information against a certain person/place/thing, you think a certain way. This forum seems to be rife with people either calling each other conservative or liberal, and not much else. It's a giant pissing contest that pretty much runs America. I would love to see a Current issues forum where politicism isn't welcomed and you have to bring up valid points, where someone else can debate it with information of their own.

My bad, partisanship isn't welcome.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Houston
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People go with the flow to often. They hear something that fits their agenda and don't look into it. I was the same way. I thought the big redeeming quality of the dems was being anti war. Not so. Both parties are very similar. Who gets the benefits from my money is what changes.
There has not been an anti-war Prez since Ike. He knew what it was like.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I just don't get it. It seems like a troll question but I remember back in the day when Americans recognized a whole multitude of political opinions, not just the left/right spectrum. How does this left/right spectrum explain someone like me who could be called a libertarian on individual rights (no SS/Income Tax, freedom of speech and religion, no government intrusion into my private life) but as far as business regulation and government go leans more towards what the Democrat and Green parties push (regulations on business and corporations and a more democratic form of government versus what we have now)? It seems almost comical to me.
Take a chance and listen to the Daniel Hannan speech that I provided this afternoon. Maybe you will be able to see some things that might make you give some thought to your thinking especially like on regulation and where that is pushing us. Maybe you might even find him talking about democratic government and what it is. Yes, his speech was delivered at a meeting of conservatives so we have right leaners right there. Hannan talks too much like other non-Americans who have warned us before about where we seem to be headed.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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they are brainwashed by the 2-card monte shell game
Which side are you talking about here? We know but some may not know.
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