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I'm not sure how the 8-weeks became the image standard. Roughly 40% of abortions [app. 500,000] occur after week 8. I suppose Virginia's hoping hearing a heartbeat or seeing an image that to the woman looks childlike will change a few thousand minds.
But that's a false choice. I'm not adopting myself, but I know people who are waiting in line.
And I know others who have been refused adoption for the silliest reasons - house is too small to give the child its own room, that kind of thing. But that's another topic.
Early in a pregnancy, a transvaginal exam is the only way they can get the images that the bill specifies. They mandated it by spelling out the specifics, without ever putting the word "trans vaginal" in the bill.
I didn't read past the first page or two, so my apologies if this has been pointed out repeatedly.
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The latest false machinations of the pro-abortion Left in an attempt to muddy the waters.
The bill does not require what the Left is in a tizzy about.
Except in the case of a medical emergency, at least 2 hours before the performance of an abortion a qualified medical professional trained in sonography and working under the direct supervision of a physician licensed in the Commonwealth shall perform fetal ultrasound imaging and auscultation of fetal heart tone services on the patient undergoing the abortion for the purpose of determining gestational age. The ultrasound image shall be made pursuant to standard medical practice in the community, [emphasis mine] contain the dimensions of the fetus, and accurately portray the presence of external members and internal organs of the fetus, if present or viewable.
Transvaginal ultrasound detect pregnancies LESS THAN 6 weeks in gestation.
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Please note the Orwellian use of the word “treatment” for “killing of the baby.” How does this require a woman to have a transvaginal ultrasound? Short answer: it doesn’t.
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You never convince them of that.
Because...its FALSE.
Oh, the woman is not FORCED to view the ultrasound OR hear the BABY'S heartbeat. Because you KNOW, there IS a baby in there, right?
Ah, Sanrene, you've stopped by to do the old seagull's crap on this thread.
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Early in a pregnancy, a transvaginal exam is the only way they can get the images that the bill specifies. They mandated it by spelling out the specifics, without ever putting the word "trans vaginal" in the bill.
I didn't read past the first page or two, so my apologies if this has been pointed out repeatedly.
Thread fail.
The way they worded the bill, this will be what is required to get the required photos. EVERYONE who can read knows what it means. The only reason the "Right" hasn't jumped on it is because they know what it means and they are being very quiet about it. EVERY other news organization that has reported it, as well as the senators opposed know exactly why it was worded the way it was.
Now, please, quit posting tired links that were posted several pages back. Go find some Rasmussen poll to get off on. As usual you add NOTHING intelligent here.
Wow. So many on the right are always "OMG BIG GOVERNMENT!!!!" until one of their pet issues is involved. Apparently, when the government moves in and tries to force women to have a tax-payer funded attempt at indoctrination disguised as an exam, it's A-OK. Damned dishonest hypocrites.
What this argument refuses to acknowledge is that abortion is, in fact, legal. So you can't use arguments deriding abortion in general to support a law that interferes with performing abortions -- a legal medical practice.
Wow. So many on the right are always "OMG BIG GOVERNMENT!!!!" until one of their pet issues is involved. Apparently, when the government moves in and tries to force women to have a tax-payer funded attempt at indoctrination disguised as an exam, it's A-OK. Damned dishonest hypocrites.
Yeah it's funny how they don't want it involved unless it's used in increasing police powers,gay rights,abortion,or making schools teach creationism.
I'm not sure how the 8-weeks became the image standard. Roughly 40% of abortions [app. 500,000] occur after week 8. I suppose Virginia's hoping hearing a heartbeat or seeing an image that to the woman looks childlike will change a few thousand minds.
So it has nothing to do with her health but is strictly to change their minds.
It's a means to punish, not care for the woman.
The OP was railing on about 8 weeks with dishonest photos.
Transvaginal Scans: Specially designed probe transducers are used inside the vagina to generate sonogram images. Most often used during the early stages of pregnancy.
Emphasis is mine.
And once again, some basic human gestational biology.
These are diagrams/drawings of early stages, or the ZYGOTE. See? Day 1: It is NOT A FETUS. It is ONE cell on day 1. We call that a ZYGOTE. The Cell division continues, but there is NO implantation on the uterus yet. That takes a minimum of a week. Once the mast of cells, aka a BLASTOCYST implants on the uterus then it becomes an embryo. Take note: it's an embryo, NOT a fetus and NOT a baby.
It is NOT a fetus until AFTER the first trimester.
God, I realize that greater than 50% of all pregnancies SELF ABORT before implantation to the uterus occurs, but don't you think you've allowed too many idiots onboard this Earth ship?
So, lady goes in for first trimester abortion, which IS WHEN MOST ELECTIVE ABORTIONS HAPPEN, so just what do you think they'll see on that transvaginal ultrasound? A BABY? Good gawd people, please take it upon yourself to actually learn something.
So it has nothing to do with her health but is strictly to change their minds.
It's a means to punish, not care for the woman.
The OP was railing on about 8 weeks with dishonest photos.
Sure it's about changing minds. You know that.
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