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HC costs will continue to go up as long as Pharma, Ins Cos, Health Care facilities are operating for profit. Pharma needs to run for profit for R&D purposes. The rest add nothing to the Care part, only add to the Cost part. There are some initiatives in the ACA that will help prevent over spending for needless tests and some for abuse. But much more needs to be done on that. As far as ACA saving people on their premiums, as has always been the case, you must wait til the plan is up and operating. That will be 2014.
Ahhhhhh....we have to wait til it's up and running to see what's in it. Good one. Very original.
tell me mr bob, what part of the ACA report do you think I missed? Do you even know, or are you just posting babbling stuff to deflect from your nonsense that you just posted.
Asked/answered long ago. Ranting on how the ACA is excessively raising cost of HC is utter nonsense. It is just another RW hot button to push, in hopes their sect members will eat it up.
Ahhhhhh....we have to wait til it's up and running to see what's in it. Good one. Very original.
Actually you missed the best part..
mr bob says we now need to turn the pharmacies and insurance companies over to government because only after profit motivation is removed, can we cut costs..
This is a 180 flip flop from liberals position last year, who said Obamacare would cut costs while explaining away the fact that adding hundreds of billions of dollars in taxes, will somehow magically reduce the cost..
And lets not even add into the equation that taxes on healthcare are 10 times higher than profits in the industry, but somehow, turning it over to government, will be the cost saver.. haha
They cant keep their own stories straight from 1 day to another and its so hard to take them serious anymore.
Asked/answered long ago. Ranting on how the ACA is excessively raising cost of HC is utter nonsense. It is just another RW hot button to push, in hopes their sect members will eat it up.
tell me mr bob, what part of the ACA report do you think I missed? Do you even know, or are you just posting babbling stuff to deflect from your nonsense that you just posted.
You didn't miss anything in the Heritage Foundation assessment. But here is the IRS version of the ACA taxes. Just in case someone actually wants to know.
But this thread isnt about the economy, THIS is about obamacare and regulations. If you want to discuss the economy, go to one of the other economy discussion threads and stop hijacking this one.
This thread was about the poll that the OP linked to in the original post. She cherry picked one factor of that poll, without pulling in the bigger picture that her attached article discussed. Her premise was misleading if you actually read her linked article. You didn't read it, did you?
If the OP and others don't want their premise questioned, then don't link to data that challenges what you're saying.
Nearly half of small-business owners name these issues
Aren't you mis-characterizing the wording of the poll question?
Where does it list the massive regulation burden of health care? Didn't it list "worried about the POTENTIAL COST OF HEALTHCARE" Isn't a concern about a POSSIBLE cost different than a concern about MASSIVE regulation of Obamacare??? Where did the word MASSIVE come from? You are being deceptive.
Reading the poll results it seems that the top reason not to hire was that THEY DIDN'T NEED TO HIRE. Please make the case, from this survey, that one small business owner that needed to hire a new employer didn't because they of obamacare or regulation. The prevailing reason people aren't hiring is the economy.
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Obamacare, massive regulatory burden and the continue of the economy - ALL a direct reflection of this president anti-business agenda. Who can blame them - business large and small have been a target of this administration, have been demonized in one way or another.
Here's a headliner AND a no-brainer;
Only 7% list government incentive for a reason to hire.
This thread was about the poll that the OP linked to in the original post. She cherry picked one factor of that poll, without pulling in the bigger picture that her attached article discussed. Her premise was misleading if you actually read her linked article. You didn't read it, did you?
If the OP and others don't want their premise questioned, then don't link to data that challenges what you're saying.
The OP picked out one section of the poll that she wished to discuss. The fact that you dont understand that she wants to discuss THAT SECTION of the poll, doesnt mean I didnt read the link, it means you cant focus on the thread topic.
If you want to discuss other sections of the poll, start a new thread dealing with the other sections, because this thread is about only the healthcare and regulations section of the poll which has to do with Obamas policies only.
It cant be that difficult for you to understand, or can it?
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