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Why don't you go to the real source that I provided? I know why but you could at least admit the fear you have of going there. I never worry about Wikipedia about things like this one though because we both know that socialists put the definition there.
Communists know what socialism is and where it ends up.
Well communists believe it will end up with us standing on the deck Starship Enterprise like Capt. Picard and explaining to a guest from the past who asked how much did his ship cost and saying in the 24th century the concepts of cost, wages and even money were no longer necessary. A society where everyone could have what they needed or wanted and could make the best use of his talents. A world that had gone beyond the need to ration goods and services using the primative concept of prices and ability to pay! This is the Marxist Dream and why certain political stripes are afraid of Marxism.
Man +31,500 posts and 3091 rep. That's not a flattering ratio, perhaps you should consider your ideas and views aren't in touch with reality.
So you think that the number of progs who rep each other in toto would make me stop posting. I am sorry but I post at progs and to conservatives and few progs rep me. In fact, more than has had me on ignore for most of the time I have been here. Maybe you should try that novel method of not having to read my posts. That wouldn't hurt my feelings.
I might add that too often my posts are longer than one or two lines and many people don't take the time to read them.
This is the only thing you ever have to say whenever you are confronted with logical argument.
I looked at the link. There is absolutely nothing in there that invalidates the point I just made.
I don't think you read much of that link if you don't see any more than your words show. It is ok though because I have thought of you as a prog for a very long time and you have just proved that in your last two posts here.
Life was simply wonderful in socialist Russia with the state guaranteeing everything such as a job, housing, free medical, free education etc through the Russian Constitution.
I know when the basics of life; food, shelter and medical care, are guaranteed the first thing I am going to do is quit work because if everything gets the same gimmedats then why work?
In 1977 I was in a summer school history class with a very brave man teaching it. I say brave because he had just returned from about 2 months in the USSR on a trip in which he was to look at their wonderful collective farms. He was brave because he took a camera, remember what those were?, along and smuggled the film out with him. No self-respecting American farmer would have done any different that the Russians did. The trucks, tractors and combines were of late 30s origin, mostly, and there weren't enough of them to go around so each farm got a tractor when it was their turn no matter when they needed the collective farm. They hauled grain to the terminals in trucks with no end gates in them which, of course, resulted in much of it being spread out on the very heavily potholed roads. The birds loved harvest time there.
The housing these people had was none other than what their forebearers had lived in when they were considered peasants before the revolution. The farmers said that they knew that all their grain really belonged to the state and profits from it were used to build roads, housing, etc for the city people who were more needed than farmers. Actually, the things got so bad that each farmer was given a plot to grow food on and they worked hard in those things and took their food to town to sell the people there. I don't think the socialists that ran that place ever really knew just what they had created and were running.
If thats your definition of socialism..I'm all for it..
That is not my definition of anything. Those words were copied from the link I posted and it came from the CPUSA website so the words were approved by someone at the Communist Party USA headquarters. Read the link and learn what is going on here.
Socialism= Europe + Canada + Australia + Latin America.
In theory the U.S. is also a Socialist country since we have a Social security System, the only thing is that the money we collect in taxes is used to Finance our hugemongous army so we do not get the benefits of a Social System such as Universal healthcare and other Social programs.
Try reading my link for the speech given by Daniel Hannan in Washington, DC last week. Maybe you could see that what you progs want is not going to work any better for us than it has for Europe. He says that the EU will collapse from trying to keep Greece, Italy, France, Spain and others going. Don't accept the words of an English conservative, just sit there in your prog chair and think about how wonderful life is for the people in the areas you know so very little about.
Socialism is where government own everything. All the good that is produce by the people belong to the people and it is equality distribution. NO that is NOT how socialism works. The UK is a Socialist Country and the Govt. doesn't own everything. The Govt is no different to the Govt. in the USA except that it takes it's responsibility to its citizens and voters seriously. A real safety net is in place for the less fortunate so that they can get the basic needs of Healthcare, housing etc etc. Citizens have home ownership and own their own companies without any Govt. Interference except taxes as here in the USA. The Govt does however give tax exemptions to new businesses and encourage home ownership. Capitalism survives in the UK but works hand in hand with Socialism and great wealth can be achieved in the UK by hard work. I'm afraid you are doing what many Americans do...... confusing socialism for Communism...... both entirely different, in fact America already has socialism but it is mostly for the wealthy and a part for the poor or needy.
It give people no incentive to work harder or product. Which will ended up with no production. There will not be enough food for everyone, except if you are the government.
Absolute Rubbish!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The incentive to work is no less in a Socialist Country than in the USA. The production in the UK is no different to in the USA and has all the same problems as American factories......... If Capitalism is so great then why has industry virtually disappeared in the USA? The City of London is probably the Capital for finance throughout the World and shows great Capitalistic acumen to create wealth and incentives to work hard and combined with a Socialistic doctrine, makes the UK a good place for entrepreneurs to flourish and the less wealthy to survive. This is how real socialism works and not how it is percieved in articles or biased news programmes.
So you think that the number of progs who rep each other in toto would make me stop posting. I am sorry but I post at progs and to conservatives and few progs rep me. In fact, more than has had me on ignore for most of the time I have been here. Maybe you should try that novel method of not having to read my posts. That wouldn't hurt my feelings.
I might add that too often my posts are longer than one or two lines and many people don't take the time to read them.
I wasn't aware that this was an overwhelmingly "prog" site and that conservatives are so few in between that you aren't able to garner more rep from anyone or any background. It certainly isn't because you are volume poster who offers no substance to your post because your views are in such a minority.
So you think that the number of progs who rep each other in toto would make me stop posting. I am sorry but I post at progs and to conservatives and few progs rep me. In fact, more than has had me on ignore for most of the time I have been here. Maybe you should try that novel method of not having to read my posts. That wouldn't hurt my feelings.
I might add that too often my posts are longer than one or two lines and many people don't take the time to read them.
Of course you can post how often as you like but as I've said it is the substance that matters. Obviously you don't have much credibility among anyone on here as you probably would have been repped a bit more. .
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