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Old 02-18-2012, 09:10 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You have the governments army, and you have the peoples army.

They have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution.....

By peaceful means or by force, the US Constitution is the Holy Grail of this Nation.

 
Old 02-18-2012, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Why do the troops support Ron Paul?


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Old 02-18-2012, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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The troops are American citizens. Correct? Are they not entitled to their first amendment rights?

No one is talking about the military appointing a leader. We're talking about individual soldiers, marines, or sailors being able to support the candidate as they see fit in society at large.
They are perfectly within their rights to do so as individual private citizens.

However specific to this topic, they (from the link I posted earlier):

"Cannot - Participate in partisan political fundraising activities, rallies, conventions (including making speeches in the course thereof), management of campaigns, or debates, either on ones own behalf or on that of another, without respect to uniform or inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement. Participation includes more than mere attendance as a spectator.
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Cannot - Speak before a partisan political gathering, including any gathering that promotes a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.
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Cannot - March or ride in a partisan political parade."
 
Old 02-18-2012, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:33 AM
 
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Active duty military are not allowed to march in any politician's campaign wearing the uniform of the US. They can participate so long as they go in civilian attire and don't attribute the logos or insignia of the US Armed Forces to the campaign.
Pretty much. This is what i was always told when i was on active duty. I could participate in any political activity i wanted to, but NOT in uniform, and i wasn't to make any claims of doing any specific job on behalf of the Army itself.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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They are perfectly within their rights to do so as individual private citizens.

However specific to this topic, they (from the link I posted earlier):

"Cannot - Participate in partisan political fundraising activities, rallies, conventions (including making speeches in the course thereof), management of campaigns, or debates, either on ones own behalf or on that of another, without respect to uniform or inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement. Participation includes more than mere attendance as a spectator.
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Cannot - Speak before a partisan political gathering, including any gathering that promotes a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.
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Cannot - March or ride in a partisan political parade."
And you think this is constitutional?

Do you view this as appropriate?

Who would want to join a military that limits your rights. Oh yeah, sign up and potentially get killed fighting unconstitutional, unjust wars, while we then take away your rights.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 11:54 AM
 
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And you think this is constitutional?

Do you view this as appropriate?

Who would want to join a military that limits your rights. Oh yeah, sign up and potentially get killed fighting unconstitutional, unjust wars, while we then take away your rights.
Are you serious? Guess what? The military can inspect a soldier's belongings and personal effects without a search warrant. The military can jail you for insubordination or desertion - your civilian employer sure can't. The military is not the civilian world and they've had additional rules and restrictions since the Continental Army.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Are you serious? Guess what? The military can inspect a soldier's belongings and personal effects without a search warrant. The military can jail you for insubordination or desertion - your civilian employer sure can't. The military is not the civilian world and they've had additional rules and restrictions since the Continental Army.
Sounds like slavery to me. It's a wonder they get anybody to volunteer.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Sounds like slavery to me. It's a wonder they get anybody to volunteer.
I guess some men and women simply love their country more than you do.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 12:42 PM
 
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It makes one wonder what they are dying for. It certainly isn't for the First Amendment.
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