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Old 02-18-2012, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Do we know for sure that Islam won't eventually get over its temper tantrum, and start becoming more tame?

Christianity wasn't exactly all flowers and bunnies when it first took over the Roman Empire and later Europe. It was the most destructive force in human history, wiping out entire populations.
Religions evolve to survive. Mormons accepted blacks after American society accepted blacks. Christianity is in the process of accepting women's and gay rights but they're in the final throws of fighting that battle. Religious leaders realize the only way to keep up the charade is to follow, albeit a few steps behind the natural progression of human social evolution. Religious numbers have been in a steady decline for years. The internet has increased that speed. Who needs some whacky guy in a strange costume telling them to follow some strange ritual when they have easy access to what's actually true? Islam will slowly moderate and then began to die just like christianity. That's what all religions fear. Islam has done a great job at keeping their flock ignorant, which is a must to sustain a religion. The internet is ending that and in time will end religion.
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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Religion is the worst of human inventions.
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:56 AM
 
Location: barcelona
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Do we know for sure that Islam won't eventually get over its temper tantrum, and start becoming more tame?.

violence is written into islams holy book the quaran, and into its laws. it advocates violence against nonbelivers, its founder mohammed was a warlord himself and a murderer, as well as a pedophile and only savage primitve people follow this religion the women dont have a choice in islam they are forced by there muslim men to obey and follow, the children are also forced to become muslims in muslim families


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It was the most destructive force in human history, wiping out entire populations.
this is your false statement about christianity

This is an ouright lie. the most destructive force in history has been ww1 and ww 2 fought over conflicting european nationalisms for territory and status.
And atheist communist genocides in communist era russia and communist china where many millions died


And the most potential destructive force of modern times is nuclear weapons also born from competing nationalisms
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:59 AM
 
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violence is written into islams holy book the quaran, and into its laws. it advocates violence against nonbelivers, its founder mohammed was a warlord himself and a murderer, as well as a pedophile and only savage primitve people follow this religion the women dont have a choice in islam they are forced by there muslim men to obey and follow, the children are also forced to become muslims in muslim families


this is your false statement about christianity

This is an ouright lie. the most destructive force in history has been ww1 and ww 2 fought over conflicting european nationalisms for territory and status.
And atheist communist genocides in communist era russia and communist china where many millions died


And the most potential destructive force of modern times is nuclear weapons also born from competing nationalisms


And much of European imperialism, which led to WWI and WWII, was because Europeans wanted to bring religion and culture to 'uncivilized peoples'.
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Imagine if we were 20 years more advanced in stem cell research , the Catholic Church didn't condemn the use of condoms in places with astronomical rates of HIV infection, there was no killing in the Mid East, and we had the contents of the library of Alexanderia. Religious wackos have hindered the advancement of the human race by at least 1000 years.
Religion has been part of history for as long as we have history.
It is what it is.
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:20 AM
 
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Imagine if we were 20 years more advanced in stem cell research , the Catholic Church didn't condemn the use of condoms in places with astronomical rates of HIV infection, there was no killing in the Mid East, and we had the contents of the library of Alexanderia. Religious wackos have hindered the advancement of the human race by at least 1000 years.
Don't be duped by the propaganda. In the governments eye and plans ... the "Advanced Society" is fooling and programing the people to live under strict government control on all aspects of our life. This is socialism at its core. The government has never given a crap about the people, its all about the world elite.
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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Stalin,Mao,Castro,PolPot, et al. were religious nutcases?
Red herrings, pun intended.
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: barcelona
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And much of European imperialism, which led to WWI and WWII, was because Europeans wanted to bring religion and culture to 'uncivilized peoples'.

what a load of rubbish, you don,t know what your talking about

religion had nothing to do with ww1 and ww2


christianity was already well established throughout europe many years before ww1, and secularism was in control of the governments then as well as patriotic nationalism, patriotic nationalism is ok when it simply avows to defend its borders, its when it sprouts wings into imperialism,competing nationalism and colonisng that wars start

patriotic nationailsm and its child imperialism can causes wars .


Islam is the odd one again among religions, its often imperialistic in nature seeking to expand elsewhere by force and persuasion, they are still doing it today in africa with force and persuasion and are making efforts to expand into western countries by persuasion and immigration.
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