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Old 02-18-2012, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Indiana
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If this is allowed to happen under his administration, it will be the action of a man the founders were warned about when framing the presidential clause that was to become Article 2 Section 1. They wanted a future president a natural born Citizen that was born with sole allegiance to the United States, not a President that was born with an allegiance to a foreign sovereignty that would cast doubts about his loyalty to America. How do you ensure sole allegiance to the United States? Both your parents are both U.S. citizens at your birth. As we all know, Obama's birth was governed by the British Nationality Act of 1948 due the the fact that his father was not a U.S. citizen but rather a British Subject making Barack Jr a dual Citizen with split allegiances at birth. With that said, former candidate Joe Miller from Alaska has discovered that Obama secretly negotiated new boundary lines between the U.S. and Siberia which would put 7 Alaskan islands which have oil rich shales for thousands of square miles that will soon be considered Russian waters. This move means the president would be letting oil rich sovereign U.S. property be handed over to the Russians, a sworn military adversary for decades. Although this didn't start under Obama, it is still a treasonous move and it is flat out un American if Obama does this. This property has U.S. natural resources on it that insures our national security. With Obama wanting to cut 80% of our 1,550 nuclear deployed weapons and now this treacherous possible move, it is clear that this ineligible non natural born citizen president would be undermining United States sovereignty putting our national security at severe risk. What is America getting in return?




Joe Miller: “Obama Gives Seven Alaska Islands To Russia” | The Real Revo
have not heard it on the news yet but it sounds like something he would do!!

 
Old 02-18-2012, 05:39 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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The State of Alaska claimed some of those islands based on Americans first discovering them. I suspect most of them are pretty worthless anyways though.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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"Quit deflecting and hijacking" is a lie.

Personal attacks nop... I said facts.

you are backing about posts that say lies such as the original post that states that Obama is a dual citizen. That is a lie.
No it's not a lie. It's admitted on his own campaign website Fight the Smears. Know your facts.


Here it is and read the last sentence that confirms it:

"When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

If you read the last sentence, it confirms that a foreign soverenty governed Obama jrs birth because his father was a British Subject. The man sitting in the oval office is a dual citizen, not a natural born citizen.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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I suspect most of them are pretty worthless anyways though.
Based on what? That area is rich fertile fishing waters and there are huge oilfields underneath.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 05:44 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Based on what? That area is rich fertile fishing waters and there are huge oilfields underneath.
Why don't you look those islands up in an encyclopedia. Most of them are just pieces of rock in the middle of nowhere and nearly inaccessible. American fishermen already have access to fishing grounds in the Bering Sea.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Did anyone think they would ever see the day that a birther thread and a dispute over islands would be joined together? I admit I did not see that one coming
 
Old 02-18-2012, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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Why don't you look those islands up in an encyclopedia. Most of them are just pieces of rock in the middle of nowhere and nearly inaccessible. American fishermen already have access to fishing grounds in the Bering Sea.
I noticed you failed to address the petroleum that lies underneath. Why?
 
Old 02-18-2012, 05:49 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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I noticed you failed to address the petroleum that lies underneath. Why?
What oil? "Rich oil deposits" is pure speculation for now. And if there is oil there we could tap it from our side of the boundary line anyhow.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 06:01 AM
 
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Those islands cannot be "given away" by the US for the simple reason that the US does not control any of them. The last time Americans tried to claim Wrangel Island, for instance, was in 1924, and that ended quickly. Since that era, all of those islands have been under the firm control of the USSR/Russia.

The US doesn't have any active territorial claims to any of those places.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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Those islands cannot be "given away" by the US for the simple reason that the US does not control any of them. The last time Americans tried to claim Wrangel Island, for instance, was in 1924, and that ended quickly. Since that era, all of those islands have been under the firm control of the USSR/Russia.

The US doesn't have any active territorial claims to any of those places.
We gained those Islands by treaty in 1867.
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