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Old 10-29-2007, 10:40 AM
 
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Again, responsibility. Money isn't the problem, people are. Ignore that and I don't care how much money you make, you will always be poor.

Elizabeth Warren and Amelia Warren Tyagi: What's Hurting the Middle Class
The overconsumption myth
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:41 AM
 
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Did you ever stop to think that the fact that many of these birth mothers do not seek out pre-natal care? And, many are addicted to alchol and drugs?

Ever see what a crack addicted baby looks like? You should - then perhaps you might have a far better understanding of why the mortality rate is schewed
That's a BS argument. You have people with mental and drug problems in all countries. Their mortality rates are better.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:41 AM
 
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But, if the US does not have the best, why wouldn't they go to the country with the best medical care?
Because "the best" is available here for many conditions, assuming you have the large amount of money needed to pay for it. But that doesn't mean we have the best healthcare for a majority of our population.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:43 AM
 
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"THE" (as in only) problem? No

"A" (as in part of) problem? Yes
Did you read the article? Or the quotes I put up? The ones about access to medical care being a better determinant of infant survival than drug use? Do you even have any evidence that mothers in the US are more likely to do drugs during pregnancy than all of the other countries that have lower infant, newborn, and child mortality rates, not to mention longer lifespans and less cancer? Because we do have evidence that they have less access to medical care.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Thank God that legislation went into effect!!
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:49 AM
 
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Are you suggesting that "we" pay absolutely nothing out of our pockets for our health care? That it should be 100% totally government paid for?
I'm suggesting that what people CAN pay is often over estimates. What about a sliding scale?
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:50 AM
 
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Why do so many come here, to the US, for healthcare then? Any explanations for that?

Are you sure? Or is this more, "I am citing something that I have not researched" rhetoric?

Another Myth Bites the Dust

There has been ample media however, to suggest that Americans are seeking health care abroad.

Outsourcing your heart.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:52 AM
 
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As has been previously pointed out, there is a growing trend of Doctors not taking insurance at all - their patients pay, out of their pockets, the office fee. And those office visit fees are not what you suggest. AND, the "walk in" clinics in Malls, and airports - where you can get a physical for less than $75.00. Get your "sniffles" treated for $39.00.
The prices I suggested, are prices I have seen on invoices. I didn't pull it out of a hat.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:54 AM
 
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Sounds like you should consider moving to an area of the country where I can guarantee you would will not encounter what you described
NY has the many of the best hospitals in the country. From my experience with hospitals outside of the region, the hospital care is better, but the physicians are not.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Are you sure? Or is this more, "I am citing something that I have not researched" rhetoric?
I'm sorry, I don't consider blogs credible


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There has been ample media however, to suggest that Americans are seeking health care abroad.

Outsourcing your heart.
Thanks for the link. However, the link was about an UN-INSURED person - I questioned your statement that insurance companies were doing it. Your link does not bolster your assertion
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