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Old 02-20-2012, 02:34 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Senators McCain and Graham, both Republican's, are over in the Middle East spouting off about the US arming rebels in Syria and doing it publicly. This is contrary to the President's policies up to now. Since the Constitution gives authority to handle foreign affairs to the President, subject to congressional funding and approval, they're stepping outside their authority and trying to set policy themselves.

They should shut up.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/20/wo...ors_picks=true

It will be interesting to see how those on the right support them when they're doing the same thing the right accused Nancy Pelosi of doing back during the Bush administration.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:38 AM
 
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Seems to me all politicians do this stunt, the peanut farmer does it on a regular basis.

Outside of it's campaign time what's the BFD?
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:48 AM
 
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Seems to me all politicians do this stunt, the peanut farmer does it on a regular basis.

Outside of it's campaign time what's the BFD?

This has nothing to do with the campaign. This has to do with foreign policies which will have an effect long after November. And, the peanut farmer isn't a member of Congress.

McCain and Graham should be recalled and publicly chastised for sticking their noses into the President's authority.
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Old 02-20-2012, 03:03 AM
 
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This has nothing to do with the campaign. This has to do with foreign policies which will have an effect long after November. And, the peanut farmer isn't a member of Congress.

McCain and Graham should be recalled and publicly chastised for sticking their noses into the President's authority.
Funny, when Democrats went overseas sticking their noses into Bush's authority your fellow Democrats had no problem with it.

So this is another one of those political rules of don't do as I do, do as I say that Democrats, Republicans and Liberals play with each other...
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Old 02-20-2012, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Funny, when Democrats went overseas sticking their noses into Bush's authority your fellow Democrats had no problem with it.

So this is another one of those political rules of don't do as I do, do as I say that Democrats, Republicans and Liberals play with each other...
I don't know. You tell me because this is exactly the same thing in reverse. Where's the outrage from the right?
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Old 02-20-2012, 04:47 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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This has nothing to do with the campaign. This has to do with foreign policies which will have an effect long after November. And, the peanut farmer isn't a member of Congress.

McCain and Graham should be recalled and publicly chastised for sticking their noses into the President's authority.
Actually,they should be tried for treason.
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Old 02-20-2012, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Actually,they should be tried for treason.
Actually, I don't expect anything to happen to them. Having the cajones to stand up for himself and his prerogatives as President isn't one of Obama's strong suits.

On the other hand, as I said about Pelosi's actions back then, it's not uncommon for a President to use traveling members of Congress, or even private citizens, to float a trial policy ballon in exactly this manner. However, since the GOP has shown literally NO interest in helping the President do anything, I just can't see that happening with this. This time, I think it's a case of two war-mongering Senators trying to push the President into a policy they want.
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Old 02-20-2012, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This has nothing to do with the campaign. This has to do with foreign policies which will have an effect long after November. And, the peanut farmer isn't a member of Congress.

McCain and Graham should be recalled and publicly chastised for sticking their noses into the President's authority.
What ? The President doesn't have sole authority.
Our constitution was written with checks and balances here only they have been thrown out the window.

It seems the President does what he wants...bomb Libya and now Congress members are doing what they want ...war mongering.

Letting one side get away with it only gives precedence to the other side getting away with it.
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Old 02-20-2012, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Actually, I don't expect anything to happen to them. Having the cajones to stand up for himself and his prerogatives as President isn't one of Obama's strong suits.

On the other hand, as I said about Pelosi's actions back then, it's not uncommon for a President to use traveling members of Congress, or even private citizens, to float a trial policy ballon in exactly this manner. However, since the GOP has shown literally NO interest in helping the President do anything, I just can't see that happening with this. This time, I think it's a case of two war-mongering Senators trying to push the President into a policy they want.
I agree with you...I wonder if Limpwrist Graham is willing to do a little fighting for his "beliefs"this time or just stick to his law books again
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