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As was mentioned in post #70, what about those who later in life become physically or mentally handicapped and can't wash themselves?
Can that person wash their feet and pits? Should we cut them off too, just to save him the trouble in case he becomes disabled at some point? Why is all the focus on the genitals? I find the obsession with the foreskin more than mildly disturbing. Should we circumcise women too, in case they become disabled one day?
So, I should mutilate my son's penis on the off chance that when he reaches old age he may have difficulty cleaning himself? That's honestly a ridiculous position to take.
It's not "mutilation," it's an accepted, legitimate medical procedure.
We don't get a choice after our parents decided to do it to us, so your whole rant is really based on a false premise.
Also, you "prefer" cut because it's what you are used to. If you lived outside the US, you'd probably feel the exact opposite, so pardon me if I don't find your aesthetics argument very compelling.
um, how do you infer that I am 'ranting' in my post? Actually I was very calm and collected when I composed that post, thank you.
And it doesn't really matter if you find my argument compelling, it is not my job to sway you. If you don't want to do it, then fine (how many times need i repeat this?) this is an opinion board, and I'm putting my opinion out there.
I prefer cut because I like it. Doesn't matter on what basis preferences are made, they are what they are.
ROFL!! I guess it's all perspective, because from where I stand, there's more people ranting and raving about the "barbaric" practice than those who are doing it.
As far as choice goes.. I don't know how to explain being a parent to you any more than I already have. Parents can't leave every decision up to the child until their grown or they wouldn't make it to adulthood in the first place.
Do you have children? If you do, do you not decide what they eat, where they sleep, what school (or not) they go to, to vaccinate or not, when to take them to a doctor, when to cut their hair? There are more decisions we parents make for our children than not, why would I suddenly stop making that decision on something so significant as my child's health??
The health angle is a non-starter. It just is. It's not necessary to leave "every little thing" up to the child. But can we agree to not permanently alter/mutilate a child's genitals? If I decide to tattoo my infant, is that okay with you? How about that mother not too long ago who allowed her son to get a tattoo in his brother's honor. Were you okay with that?
And again, you said that you were all about ALL things pro choice. Are you now changing your position?
Lots of opinions.. I'd be interested in what the opinions are of the adult males who have for whatever reason had the circumcision procedure done in later life..What would be your response if some one now asked for a yea or nay response concerning the decision for their child what would you advise?.
I know of a former co-worker who had it done when he was about 30 years old. The reason was because his wife complained about pain during you-know-what.
um, how do you infer that I am 'ranting' in my post? Actually I was very calm and collected when I composed that post, thank you.
And it doesn't really matter if you find my argument compelling, it is not my job to sway you. If you don't want to do it, then fine (how many times need i repeat this?) this is an opinion board, and I'm putting my opinion out there.
I prefer cut because I like it. Doesn't matter on what basis preferences are made, they are what they are.
It sounded ranty to me. That's an opinion, and as you have pointed out, this is an opinion board.
As for the rest of your biased rant, you prefer cut because it's what you know and you've been raised under the false societal supposition that uncut = "unclean".
As was mentioned in post #70, what about those who later in life become physically or mentally handicapped and can't wash themselves?
So we should mutilate a newborn's genitals on the off chance that they become incapacitated later in life? My son will have at least 40 decades of adulthood to make this decision all on his own. It does not have to be decided within the first few hours of his birth.
You may be right; I'm glad I don't have an obsession about it. However, discussing the subject here doesn't really make it an obsession.
Not the same thing; try to stay on topic.
Chopping off flesh seems obsessive to me. Women have personal hygiene issues too, yet we don't chop off their labia in case they become disabled some day, so spare me the wannabe moderator BS about remaining on topic.
Face it, your argument about disabled men is a ridiculous justification.
It's not "mutilation," it's an accepted, legitimate medical procedure.
So is female circumcision in some parts of Africa. Do you consider that mutilation?
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