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Old 02-23-2012, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Leftists like to call it "greed," but it was actually "success." Don't confuse the two; there is nothing wrong with being a success, unless you break the law or do it immorally.
Madoff, Enron, WorldCom....
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Old 02-23-2012, 10:40 AM
 
Location: NC USA
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Many presidents have had some significant successes. Carter - the middle East, FDR - the economy
Carter - Middle East as a success? His actions are still having ripple effects in the Middle East today. He was an abject failure there.

FDR and he economy - still a failure
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Madoff, Enron, WorldCom....
Are those the only people/companies in the U.S.?

Are you claiming that the '80s was a decade of "greed" because of one person and two companies? Ridiculous. Besides, Enron was around long before the 1980s.

What about the other hundreds of thousands of companies in the U.S. which became successful or more successful and were able to hire more employees which helped the economy and the citizens?
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I can't conceive how anyone would put Reagan on their top 3.
I can't conceive how anyone would put William the Impeached in their top 3.
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:49 PM
 
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Washington, Lincoln, Reagan
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:59 PM
 
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George Washington---humble leader that set the standard, warned against party politics

Grover Cleveland----Champion of champions

Cal Coolidge---the fed reserve screwed his legacy over.
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Republic of Texas
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Sam Houston, Mirabeau Lamar, Reagan
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:43 PM
 
Location: 3rd Rock fts
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Nice to see Grover Cleveland mentioned more than once.
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Old 02-23-2012, 06:01 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default These three in their own league

Lincoln, Kennedy, Obama
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:01 AM
 
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Reagan (won the cold war), Nixon (got us out of Vietnam, started the EPA), Cool Cal (got us out of the recession of 1920's without any government spending). Worse - FDR (created the failed welfare state), Clinton (started us down the path to the Iraq war with his Iraq Liberation Act, allowed 9-11 to happen when he failed to get Bin Laden), Obama (massive fraud, liar, made the recession into the Great Recession).
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