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02-20-2012, 12:23 PM
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Location: Gray State
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Originally Posted by Skinny Puppy
You mean keeping the USA in one piece is a bad thing?
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show me where in the founding documents of the USA it says that a state is not allowed to secede?
dont tell me the military solution, we already know that one, I want the Constitutional decision.
if a state is allowed to ask for entrance to the union, then a state is also allowed the exact opposite and secede as well.
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02-20-2012, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by monkeywrenching
show me where in the founding documents of the USA it says that a state is not allowed to secede?
dont tell me the military solution, we already know that one, I want the Constitutional decision.
if a state is allowed to ask for entrance to the union, then a state is also allowed the exact opposite and secede as well.
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So you are pro-secessionist?
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02-20-2012, 12:40 PM
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Location: Gray State
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Originally Posted by Skinny Puppy
So you are pro-secessionist?
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I believe that if a state decides that it wants to go it alone, or a group of states want to do it without the federal goverment, then they should be allowed to.
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02-20-2012, 12:43 PM
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Location: Exeter, NH
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Originally Posted by whogo
Washington, Jefferson, Eisenhower.
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Thomas Jefferson. Somewhat, Teddy Roosevelt.
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02-20-2012, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by monkeywrenching
I believe that if a state decides that it wants to go it alone, or a group of states want to do it without the federal goverment, then they should be allowed to.
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That's secession. I don't support that, I support the United States, not the seceded states.
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02-20-2012, 01:31 PM
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Location: NW burbs of Chicago
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1) Teddy Roosevelt--> Meat Inspection and the Pure Food and Drug Acts, Conservationist, Trust Buster, Panama Canal...
2) Abe Lincoln-->Led this nation during its true darkest hours.
3) Thomas Jefferson--> Louisiana Purchase, Lewis & Clark Expedition...
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02-20-2012, 01:32 PM
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Washington, Lincoln and Reagan.
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02-20-2012, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Skinny Puppy
That's secession. I don't support that, I support the United States, not the seceded states.
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The founding fathers must have been terrorists in your view, right?
The declaration of independence an act of sedition?
You know ... you either believe in the principle of government by the consent of the governed, or you don't. You can't have it both ways.
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02-20-2012, 07:32 PM
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Location: San Diego, CA
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Washington, Lincoln and FDR are my obvious choices. It gets much more interesting after that. My next three would be Jefferson, TR and quite possibly GHW Bush. It is pretty tough to match the level of service to his country through his lifetime and in my option he did a masterful job of winding down the cold war.
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02-20-2012, 07:44 PM
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Location: Freakville
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Warren G. Harding
William Henry Harrison
Hillary Clinton
In no particular order
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