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Old 02-21-2012, 08:34 AM
 
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The same budget proposed by Govenor Romney would be CREDIBLE. Barack has no experience or background and is thus unqualified to propose anything. He is a "figurehead".

I would not consult the clown running the Space Mountain ride at Disneyland about the NASA shuttle budget.

At what point *does* someone get experience.

He's been president for almost 4 years now. You can claim many things about him but you can no longer lean on the "all he was was a community organizer and has no experience" line.

As for Romney, he GOT his governmental experience being a governor. He learned, in that job, how to deal with government budgets. At some point, he was also inexperienced. You certainly don't get experience running government by way of working for a corporation. Different beast.
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:47 AM
 
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The same budget proposed by Govenor Romney would be CREDIBLE. Barack has no experience or background and is thus unqualified to propose anything. He is a "figurehead".

I would not consult the clown running the Space Mountain ride at Disneyland about the NASA shuttle budget.
Obama is incapable of wrapping his head around budget proposals. A team of ideological fools wrote this for him, gave him the Cliff notes talking points. and he signed off on it. Obama's limited capacity to comprehend economics only includes borrowing and spending federal taxpayer dollars. He is incapable of thinking beyond the simple idea. Spending, any spending on anything equal success to Obama, results don't matter, because the facts and figures to prove or disprove its effectiveness would be meaningless to him. Obama is a one trick pony.
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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Obama was raised and lived the cradle to grave government dependent mantra. He was a community organizer who relied on government funding to launch his crooked deals. He attended a US university on a student visa. Who actually paid for his education? Who know not him though I'm sure probably the government. Every penny this man has ever acquired in his life has been handed to him by uncle sam. Well except the crooked deals he worked with Rezko and Blago. That is what he knows. I think he's amazed his spending hasn't fixed everything because that is what he's been taught all his life. Now that reality has set in he blames everything else for the problem except the actual cause which is spending.
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:51 AM
 
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Why doesn't he put forth a budget that is balanced and has at least a modicum of fiscal sanity in it? And the government is not in the job creation business, it is in the business of representing the people.
He has, but the right and especially the tea party absolute refuse to cut a dime of their insane spending to the rich.
Just look at the nation's credit downgrade fiasco. Obama presented 4 trillion in cuts, and only wanted the R's to pitch in 1 trillion, and the D's would cover the rest.
Obama was getting tons of heat from his own party as the cuts included massive slashing of medicare, medicaid and other social programs but he made it clear we ALL have to make the tough cuts as we absolutely need fiscal sanity. He asked the R's to pitch in just a tiny bit, but absolutely refused, essentially saying "no way in hell we're touching a dime of the tax breaks to the rich or our corporate cronies!" Which lead to the nation's credit being downgraded from the so called "less spending!" GOP/tea party.

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The right and their corporate cronies? Obama is so deep in the the corporate cronyism it is funny. But I see that you have mastered the art of "sand breathing" since you have stuck your head so far in and ignored everything that the Celebrity-in-Chief has done.
Obama is a center/right wall street republican. That's why I always get a good laugh when the brainwashed right wing goons pull out the marxist/communist/socialist garbage.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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At what point *does* someone get experience.

He's been president for almost 4 years now. You can claim many things about him but you can no longer lean on the "all he was was a community organizer and has no experience" line.

As for Romney, he GOT his governmental experience being a governor. He learned, in that job, how to deal with government budgets. At some point, he was also inexperienced. You certainly don't get experience running government by way of working for a corporation. Different beast.

The Barack debacle is the reason why candidates should have experience BEFORE running for the top job in the country. We can't afford another idealogue that wastes four years getting "experience". We warned you before this punk was handed the keys to the country.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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It's clear you are completely out of touch especially the bolded part. We don't even have to discuss whether he will get support from the GOP with his budget proposal because he won't even get support from a lot of Democrats. It's that bad.
So Congress has it right, President has it wrong. Interesting take from someone who claims to be "in touch".
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Bay Area, Calif.
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must be killing the op and his cohorts that the economy is rebounding.

...from a worse recession than reagan had to deal with in the same amount of time..

*snicker*
{ a p pl a u s e }
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Earth
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that will be voted down ALL to Zero in the Senate, yet again. Is Obama trying to abdicate all responsibility for the pressing fiscal issues our country faces? Seems like it to me.

His budget does NOTHING to fix the issue.
Do you understand the budget cycle?
Do you understand that there are 13 appropriations that have their own budgets?

The first step I would make, if I had the option, was to change to a 2-year budget cycle.
I work with the federal budget.

This first link is pretty good.
There used to be a better one for federal budget primer, but it seems to have gone missing.

http://www.aaas.org/spp/rd/presentat...rd20100122.pdf
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/c...09-5/25-30.pdf

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Why doesn't he create a balanced budget then? He's done nothing to move in that direction. He's broken his promise to halve the deficit by the end of his first term. Your post is just a rhetoric spew, nothing more.
I would seriously ask that you learn about the budget before you look more silly.

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Old 02-21-2012, 10:35 AM
 
Location: NC USA
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He has, but the right and especially the tea party absolute refuse to cut a dime of their insane spending to the rich.
Just look at the nation's credit downgrade fiasco. Obama presented 4 trillion in cuts, and only wanted the R's to pitch in 1 trillion, and the D's would cover the rest.
Obama was getting tons of heat from his own party as the cuts included massive slashing of medicare, medicaid and other social programs but he made it clear we ALL have to make the tough cuts as we absolutely need fiscal sanity. He asked the R's to pitch in just a tiny bit, but absolutely refused, essentially saying "no way in hell we're touching a dime of the tax breaks to the rich or our corporate cronies!" Which lead to the nation's credit being downgraded from the so called "less spending!" GOP/tea party.



Obama is a center/right wall street republican. That's why I always get a good laugh when the brainwashed right wing goons pull out the marxist/communist/socialist garbage.
When has Obama presented a "balanced budget"? Seriously, he has proposed nothing but more debt and more spending.

I suggest you read this to become informed:

President Obama's Budget

And by the way, his second to the last budget was denied by EVERYONE, not just Republicans. His reckless spending is what got our credit downgraded no matter how you want to paint it. And this budget is not much different.

Obama is NOT a center/right republican at all. He is a full blown left wing fascist who desires a state run society and a distribution program to promote "fairness" (his own words). Nothing right wing about that.

Seriously, I think I may have to stop reading posts from left wingers just in case the stupidity is catching.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:55 AM
 
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When has Obama presented a "balanced budget"? Seriously, he has proposed nothing but more debt and more spending.

I suggest you read this to become informed:

President Obama's Budget
I just gave you one example. Another was included in his jobs creation bill that the GOP also shot down. I agree, I suggest you become informed. All the GOP wants to do is spend like manics like we saw with them holding the nation hostage to force through their 858 billion in new spending to continue the disastrous Bush tax cuts for the rich.

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And by the way, his second to the last budget was denied by EVERYONE, not just Republicans. His reckless spending is what got our credit downgraded no matter how you want to paint it. And this budget is not much different.
McConnell was playing games and forced through a vote on the budget bill that was still in debates. The dem's didn't give him an inch and all voted against it. The D's returned the favor by bringing up a vote for the tea party Ryan budget bill in which the GOP shot down their own bill. Many lulz were to be had
Also try again, the S&P themselves said the credit was downgraded because of the GOP and especially the tea party's refusing to cut even a dime of their own spending. This was another perfect example of the dems bending over backwards for the GOP, but the GOP would rather act like a bunch of babies to defend the rich at all costs, and say to hell with the country.

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Obama is NOT a center/right republican at all. He is a full blown left wing fascist who desires a state run society and a distribution program to promote "fairness" (his own words). Nothing right wing about that.
"Left wing fascist"?

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Seriously, I think I may have to stop reading posts from left wingers just in case the stupidity is catching.
I was thinking the same about the right wing goons. They are so programmed with bogus facts from fox and other extreme right propaganda outlets, they have lost the ability to acknowledge or understand even the most simple of facts.
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