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Old 02-21-2012, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by lee9786 View Post
http://start.umd.edu/start/publicati...STerrorism.pdf

-"fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation)"
-"anti-global"
-"suspicious of centralized federal authority"
-"reverent of individual liberty"
-"believe in conspiracy theories"
-"a belief that one’s personal and/or national “way of life” is under attack"
-"a belief in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism"
-"impose strict religious tenets or laws on society (fundamentalists)"
-"insert religion into the political sphere"
-"those who seek to politicize religion"
-"supported political movements for autonomy"
-"anti-abortion"
-"anti-Catholic"
-"anti-nuclear"

check out page 11. The sad thing is the public is paying their salaries.
Well I'm 5 for 13 so I think I'm ok.
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:18 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by lee9786 View Post
http://start.umd.edu/start/publicati...STerrorism.pdf

-"fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation)"
-"anti-global"
-"suspicious of centralized federal authority"
-"reverent of individual liberty"
-"believe in conspiracy theories"
-"a belief that one’s personal and/or national “way of life” is under attack"
-"a belief in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism"
-"impose strict religious tenets or laws on society (fundamentalists)"
-"insert religion into the political sphere"
-"those who seek to politicize religion"
-"supported political movements for autonomy"
-"anti-abortion"
-"anti-Catholic"
-"anti-nuclear"

check out page 11. The sad thing is the public is paying their salaries.

Do you have to meet all criteria, or just one or two?

Ron Paul is a terrorist, and so am I, except for the anti-Catholic and all the religious stuff.
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:26 PM
 
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Oooh I go to UMD! We've even got a terrorism studies minor where part of it involves working with the organization that put out that report.

With regards to the OP's post: they also talk about extreme left-wing organizations:

" groups that want to bring about change through violent revolution rather than
through established political processes. This category also includes secular left-wing groups that
rely heavily on terrorism to overthrow the capitalist system and either establish “a dictatorship of
the proletariat” (Marxist-Leninists) or, much more rarely, a decentralized, non-hierarchical political
system (anarchists)."

So don't act like they're just targeting "sovereign citizen" types.

Oh yeah and they mention muslim extremists too:

"
Religious: groups that seek to smite the purported enemies of God and other evildoers, impose
strict religious tenets or laws on society (fundamentalists), forcibly insert religion into the political
sphere (e.g., those who seek to politicize religion, such as Christian Reconstructionists and
Islamists), and/or bring about Armageddon (apocalyptic millenarian cults; 2010: 17). For example,
Jewish Direct Action, Mormon extremist, Jamaat-al-Fuqra, and Covenant, Sword and the Arm of the
Lord (CSA) are included in this category"
So they're essentially targeting everyone with individual beliefs that chooses not to bow at the altar of government. How comforting .
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:32 PM
 
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What a failure of reading comprehension.
First, the relevant quote is on page 10, not 11 (guess you failed at math, too).

Second, the section is describing the various categories of ideological motivation for terrorism. This is not the same as a definition of a terrorist. The part quoted is from the paragraph labeled "Extreme Right Wing". This is followed by sections on "Extreme Left Wing", "Religious", "Ethno-Nationalist/Separatist", and "Single-Issue".

The definition of a terrorist is given on page 9, as:
"The threatened or actual use of illegal force by non-state actors, in order to attain a political, economic, religious or social goal, through fear, coercion or intimidation." This is what terrorism is, the categories above are why terrorists commit their acts.

Please continue with your pseudo-outrage thread-of-the-hour
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:34 PM
 
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it's going to take more than posting on the internetz to get on the gubemints list they have bigger fish to fry
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:36 PM
 
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What a failure of reading comprehension.
First, the relevant quote is on page 10, not 11 (guess you failed at math, too).

Second, the section is describing the various categories of ideological motivation for terrorism. This is not the same as a definition of a terrorist. The part quoted is from the paragraph labeled "Extreme Right Wing". This is followed by sections on "Extreme Left Wing", "Religious", "Ethno-Nationalist/Separatist", and "Single-Issue".

The definition of a terrorist is given on page 9, as:
"The threatened or actual use of illegal force by non-state actors, in order to attain a political, economic, religious or social goal, through fear, coercion or intimidation." This is what terrorism is, the categories above are why terrorists commit their acts.

Please continue with your pseudo-outrage thread-of-the-hour
The gubiment is going to spend thousands of dollars to spy on me cuz I post on the internetz even though that is the extent of my political activities, i do go to a tea party rally once a year and whine about my medicare
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:41 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Read up on GERMAN history they did not think there was problem with HITLER until it was to late either.
Lessons to learn by.


After the war...

"We have been lied to"
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:45 PM
 
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voting for a GOP candidate in Nov and calling Obama Obummers does not constitute as a radical act

I know it may in certain nursing homes, but no in the eyes of the DOJ. You can all rest easy tonight, the Black Helicopters are not coming for you
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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It's "nothing of note" that the Department of Homeland Security finds a reverence of personal liberty and being nationally instead of globally oriented to be signs of potential terrorist leanings?

You don't think it's a tad bit suspicious that the Obama administration has crafted a set of warning signs for terrorism that is basically a laundry list of Tea Party characteristics?

You don't find it odd that a report on terrorism makes no particular note of Islam when every single terrorism arrest in the past year has been of a Muslim?

It's of no concern to you that the government is politicizing counterterrorism in a world of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons? You don't think it might be a problem that Al Qaeda could smuggle anthrax across the border because Janet Napolitano ordered DHS to monitor Rush Limbaugh's excessive "reverence of personal liberty" instead of investigating radical Islam?
Man you sure love your conspiracy theories, don't you? Keep making something out of nothing.

To be perfectly honest with you, I don't care. Say whatever truthiness you want to spout but my duty to this country has been fulfilled. I'm just here to enjoy the show and laugh at the political fireworks that are bound to go off. Enjoy.

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Old 02-22-2012, 12:29 AM
 
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all the Timothy McVeigh types are shaking in their boots

Be scared be scared
Anybody who, due to their political convictions, conspires to murder people should be shaking in their boots.

And if they carry out their act, get the death penalty.
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