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The total military defense/offense budget over a trillion a year.
Cops attacking, denying constitutional rights and illegally arresting peaceful U.S. citizens in towns across the country is what is costing cities and towns millions and now lives.
Hop, skip, and a jump to OWS being called the Occupy With Satan movement.
Nope, but if you take your blinders off, you will see that they have violated laws even after being asked to leave. But I guess breaking the law is a first amendment law, right?
They have cost the tax payers millions of dollars, "just because." Nothing more nothing less.
Last edited by CaseyB; 02-25-2012 at 10:50 AM..
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It is painfully obvious you don't know what you're talking about. The police preparing to provide mutual aid for an event somewhere else doesn't mean they are not covering their own streets. They were still providing basic patrol.
The police did NOT cause the death, the OWS protest did NOT cause the death. The trespasser DID cause the death.
Blaming others for the actions of others is childish.
Do you know that part of the basis of the English word 'Liberal' is from the latin word, 'liber', that means two things. and one of them is 'child'. Sort of sums up the OWS'ers.
I regret having police babysitting children, instead of being fully on patrol. It is not their fault, though I do believe that OWS'ers should be funding additional police support to cover the expenses.
Do you know that part of the basis of the English word 'Liberal' is from the latin word, 'liber', that means two things. and one of them is 'child'. Sort of sums up the OWS'ers.
Where exactly is the Latin liberi in this etymology? Nowhere.
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Let's see; 12th century, 14th century... really late in the game here...
Having studied latin for decades, and now have the SO's daughter grilling me on it:
Liberi is either:
the nominative/vocative plural of the word for "children"
the masculine or neuter genitive singular of the adjective meaning "free"
the masculine nominative/vocative plural of the adjective meaning "free"
As such it means:
"children" (sentence subject) or "O children!"
"of the free <male person or other masculine or neuter noun>"
"the free <male persons or other masculine plural noun>" (sentence subject) or "O free <ditto>!"
The derivative of the word means either 'free', or 'child'.
Straight Latin. Easy one.
Case \ Gender M. F. N. MM. FF. NN.
nominative līber lībera līberum līberī līberae lībera
genitive līberī līberae līberī līberōrum līberārum līberōrum
dative līberō līberae līberō līberīs līberīs līberīs
accusative līberum līberam līberum līberōs līberās lībera
ablative līberō līberā līberō līberīs līberīs līberīs
vocative līber lībera līberum līberī līberae lībera
Geez.... and I am a hard-core science major... we didn't even have to know how to spell (but partial differential equations were important). You learn latin starting in 7th grade (assuming you went to a good school).
(But I do agree that liberals are nothing more than children).
The word 'liberal' is directly derived from the Latin word 'Liberalis'.
Now want to talk about iambic pentameter or what happens when you cross polysilicon with N-diffusion?
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Let's see; 12th century, 14th century... really late in the game here...
Having studied latin for decades, and now have the SO's daughter grilling me on it:
Liberi is either:
the nominative/vocative plural of the word for "children"
the masculine or neuter genitive singular of the adjective meaning "free"
the masculine nominative/vocative plural of the adjective meaning "free"
As such it means:
"children" (sentence subject) or "O children!"
"of the free <male person or other masculine or neuter noun>"
"the free <male persons or other masculine plural noun>" (sentence subject) or "O free <ditto>!"
The derivative of the word means either 'free', or 'child'.
Straight Latin. Easy one.
Case \ Gender M. F. N. MM. FF. NN.
nominative līber lībera līberum līberī līberae lībera
genitive līberī līberae līberī līberōrum līberārum līberōrum
dative līberō līberae līberō līberīs līberīs līberīs
accusative līberum līberam līberum līberōs līberās lībera
ablative līberō līberā līberō līberīs līberīs līberīs
vocative līber lībera līberum līberī līberae lībera
Geez.... and I am a hard-core science major... we didn't even have to know how to spell (but partial differential equations were important). You learn latin starting in 7th grade (assuming you went to a good school).
(But I do agree that liberals are nothing more than children).
The word 'liberal' is directly derived from the Latin word 'Liberalis'.
Now want to talk about iambic pentameter or what happens when you cross polysilicon with N-diffusion?
*LOL* Yeah, well I'll put my Latin degree up against your hobby anytime. The fact is is that any word with liber in it does not mean that it etymologically originates from any and all words that came before it that had liber in it. Meaning also factors into how etymology works.
I'm sure that you thought that you could get away with your claims about our modern use of liberal etymologically stemming from the Latin liberi, but sorry it isn't true. But I'm glad that you had an opportunity to practice your declensions. And if you'd like to talk about meter, I'd like to suggest that we start with dactylic hexameter and work our way forward from there. Polysilicon with N-diffusion? No interest or knowledge. But if you'd like to talk programming languages, I'm your gal.
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*LOL* Yeah, well I'll put my Latin degree up against your hobby anytime. The fact is is that any word with liber in it does not mean that it etymologically originates from any and all words that came before it that had liber in it. Meaning also factors into how etymology works.
I'm sure that you thought that you could get away with your claims about our modern use of liberal etymologically stemming from the Latin liberi, but sorry it isn't true. But I'm glad that you had an opportunity to practice your declensions. And if you'd like to talk about meter, I'd like to suggest that we start with dactylic hexameter and work our way forward from there. Polysilicon with N-diffusion? No interest or knowledge. But if you'd like to talk programming languages, I'm your gal.
Woo Hoo! Programming languages.... Where should we start?
Pick a language... I am game.. I was rather bored last week, so I wrote a less-than-one-page program that would solve any Sudoku problem... (I love NP-complete problems).
(If you like programming languages, you should know about polysilicon with N-diffusion, as that is what executes them).
Quote:"Yeah, well I'll put my Latin degree up against your hobby anytime."
Please do. A Latin degree plus $5 will get you a Starbucks coffee. My degrees (or hobby, as you state) got me to retire at 40. (I have 17 hobbies, the current ones are a sound studio, and designing/building an ice boat).
Woo Hoo! Programming languages.... Where should we start?
Pick a language... I am game.. I was rather bored last week, so I wrote a less-than-one-page program that would solve any Sudoku problem... (I love NP-complete problems).
(If you like programming languages, you should know about polysilicon with N-diffusion, as that is what executes them).
Ok, you are much more advanced than I am. I'll give you that. But why would you write that Sudoku program? That's not fun. I mean program for fun, yes. But don't ruin Sudoku!
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Originally Posted by SuperSparkle928
Quote:"Yeah, well I'll put my Latin degree up against your hobby anytime."
Please do. A Latin degree plus $5 will get you a Starbucks coffee.
Tell me about it. I decided to leave the Classics Ph.D. program at Northwestern because no one was getting jobs. Granted I think the market has improved somewhat since then, but still.
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Originally Posted by SuperSparkle928
My degrees (or hobby, as you state) got me to retire at 40.
When I said "your hobby" I was referencing your Latin. And congrats on retiring at 40! I'll have my job until I die, I hope. I can't imagine not doing it.
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Originally Posted by SuperSparkle928
(I have 17 hobbies, the current ones are a sound studio, and designing/building an ice boat).
Do you have time for an 18th? Etymology might be something to add to your list.
Ok, you are much more advanced than I am. I'll give you that. But why would you write that Sudoku program? That's not fun. I mean program for fun, yes. But don't ruin Sudoku!
I did it because it was an intellectual challenge, that I was not sure I could solve. But in the end, it was rewarding. (BTW, it will solve a 9x9 Sudoku in milliseconds). A simple game tree algorithm.
Tell me about it. I decided to leave the Classics Ph.D. program at Northwestern because no one was getting jobs. Granted I think the market has improved somewhat since then, but still.
Interesting. I have a direct relative that got a PhD at Northwestern... in Physics... ended up at Cornell.
When I said "your hobby" I was referencing your Latin. And congrats on retiring at 40! I'll have my job until I die, I hope. I can't imagine not doing it.
I am going back to work, as retirement is not what it is all cracked up to be. I am a chronic workaholic. Plus there are too many things to invent or discover for me to quit. Looks like medical products again for me.
Do you have time for an 18th? Etymology might be something to add to your list.
I just did the language stuff because I had a mom that was an English teacher. I don't think she ever would have expected me to get a bumper sticker that said "Sona si latine loqueris"
*LOL* If I ever put a bumper sticker on my car, that would be it!!!!
And yes, someone with 17 hobbies could probably use a job. Different kind of stimulation. And medical products? No wonder you could retire at 40!
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