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Old 02-23-2012, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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If there was legislation to cut 10% of the following programs every year for 10 years, would you support it?

Food Stamps
WIC
Section 8
Federal Student Aid
Unemployment Insurance (employer taxes also go down 10% every year)
Social Security (your payroll taxes go down 10% every year also)
Medicare (your payroll taxes go down 10% every year also)

Then these programs are retired after 10 years.

Would you support this?
I don't think simply spending less is the answer, but spending that money more wisely, and spending it as was intended. For example, social security and medicare were not intended to kick in because a person was diagnosed with ADHD or other disability claims.

This goes on with any and all federal social welfare programs, the bureaucrats and politicians keep widening the tent, until so people who really don't need help are covered, and the people who truly need the help get less of it, or have trouble getting the assistance they need.
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Old 02-23-2012, 10:51 PM
 
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It's really not that simple. If your employer doesn't allow you to pump, you can't breastfeed. It's not like you can turn your boobs off while at work for 8-10 hours, assuming you work 1 job. My wife makes 6 figures, and she couldn't breastfeed because of the logistics issue with her former employer. Luckily, she was able to take the full maternity leave, but that only covers 12 weeks.
I guess out of context my post wasn't clear.

If you cannot afford to breastfeed OR purchase formula, can you afford to properly raise a child?

In your case, your wife could easily purchase formula with her 6-figure salary or simply leave her job to breastfeed.

I'm not disagreeing with the government providing assistance. However, it's sad that in many (not all) irresponsibly bring children into the world in a scenario where the government has to pick up the tab, willfully.
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Old 02-24-2012, 02:02 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Originally Posted by Majin View Post
If there was legislation to cut 10% of the following programs every year for 10 years, would you support it?

Food Stamps
WIC
Section 8
Federal Student Aid
Unemployment Insurance (employer taxes also go down 10% every year)
Social Security (your payroll taxes go down 10% every year also)
Medicare (your payroll taxes go down 10% every year also)

Then these programs are retired after 10 years.

Would you support this?

cut 10% per year for 10 years, no way. just cut all of them now, plus a whole slew of other programs as well, including alot of defense spending.
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:52 AM
 
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I support these federal programs being phased out, which the constitution does not relegate to federal powers. As these programs are phased out, states can begin to pick up these programs if they choose. Everyone who complains about cutting them simply needs to look at the proper way government services should be administered.

States could run any of these programs that the state's voters and legislators wish, and run them better. (And no federal dollars----so called "revenue sharing"-----should be used to fund them!!!!)
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Majin View Post
If there was legislation to cut 10% of the following programs every year for 10 years, would you support it?

Food Stamps
WIC
Section 8
Federal Student Aid
Unemployment Insurance (employer taxes also go down 10% every year)
Social Security (your payroll taxes go down 10% every year also)
Medicare (your payroll taxes go down 10% every year also)

Then these programs are retired after 10 years.

Would you support this?
That would be fairly dumb.
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Old 02-24-2012, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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Apparently no one understands that Unemployment is what you contribute to your own account. (generally) Of recent, benefits have been extended, due to high unemployment, but generally it worked that when your funds ran out you were SOL.

Want to really save money/make it?
require all companies to pay 5% tax minimum,
eliminate our presence in Afghanistan and Iraq
eliminate HSA
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Originally Posted by Majin View Post
If there was legislation to cut 10% of the following programs every year for 10 years, would you support it?

Food Stamps
WIC
Section 8
Federal Student Aid
Unemployment Insurance (employer taxes also go down 10% every year)
Social Security (your payroll taxes go down 10% every year also)
Medicare (your payroll taxes go down 10% every year also)

Then these programs are retired after 10 years.

Would you support this?
I could easily support the elimination of those federal programs. The US Constitution does not give Congress the authority to enact any social program. That is not the purpose of the federal government. If people desire any of those programs, the various States have the necessary authority to establish them.
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Why couldn't states establish their own programs to replace them (except for SS and Medicare of course)?
So ... Federal taxes go down and state taxes go up. What's the difference what government layer the money comes from -- it still originates from our paychecks.
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Old 02-24-2012, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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So ... Federal taxes go down and state taxes go up. What's the difference what government layer the money comes from -- it still originates from our paychecks.
The difference is that 49 other States are not paying for what the people in your State want to implement. If you want a social program in your State, then the taxpayers of your State should pay for it.

It also increases the viability and efficiency of those programs when they are at the State level instead of the federal level. Each State can tailor their programs according to their own needs instead of having one federal blanket that covers everyone the same way, regardless of need.
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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I could easily support the elimination of those federal programs. The US Constitution does not give Congress the authority to enact any social program. That is not the purpose of the federal government. If people desire any of those programs, the various States have the necessary authority to establish them.
Sure the US Constitution authorizes it, the Constitution REQUIRES it. It say that congress SHALL provide for the common welfare. The SCOTUS has ruled that social aid programs fit the definition of common welfare.

You would think that you'd know that bu now, that has to be the 20th time someone has told you the same thing. You disagreeing with the SCOTUS rulings doesn't change anything. Just adds your name to the minority opinion.... Enjoy.
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