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Old 02-26-2012, 08:52 AM
 
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It helps to have 38% of the world's copper reserves with 0.25% of the world's population.
...and how would it have helped the lower classses if the wealth was not dispersed? You've got dimwits here that fight tooth and nail to allow the top percent to demand more tax cuts and supporting the breakdown of collective bargaining. You even people here in support of lowering the minimum wage. This is not the model that promotes a thriving middle class.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: 77441
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ever been to chile ?

I have, you're more than welcome to move down there and help them celebrate their awesomeness
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:43 PM
 
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The US does not have a safety net. European countries , Canada, Japan, Australia, Chile, and Argentina, etc ( I cant name all ) have safety nets.

In the US, social security does not include the most important element of a social safety net which is health security aka universal healthcare, so you just made me laugh, the USA is the country where the safety net is nonexistent.

We pay the same (very close) amount of taxes that Canadians pay (% of income) but the difference is that our tax money goes to finance the US army (Tomahawk missiles, soldiers, F22 Raptors, war tech, etc etc), while other countries put that money in a safety net aka social security systems that are actually Social to take care of their population.

We have the biggest and most technological army but if you get sick and have no insurance you must pray and pray...
You do realize that it is illegal for hospitals to refuse care, whether or not you have insurance or are in the country legally, right?

You seem to be uninformed, uneducated, and unhappy that the United States hasn't adopted Socialist policies.

By the way, what is Canada's total population? Is it anywhere near the 350 million (not counting millions of illegals) that reside in the U.S.?
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:49 PM
 
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You do realize that it is illegal for hospitals to refuse care, whether or not you have insurance or are in the country legally, right?

You seem to be uninformed, uneducated, and unhappy that the United States hasn't adopted Socialist policies.

By the way, what is Canada's total population? Is it anywhere near the 350 million (not counting millions of illegals) that reside in the U.S.?
Of course, but wait until you get the bill.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I fail to see how either of these comments discredits the fact that Chile made great strides through policy change. The article clearly displays examples of how a country can improve its employment rate, decrease poverty, and improve its quality of living. Every country should strive to continually improve the quality of living for its individuals. It is the evolutionary cycle we have been in since the beginning of time.
The OP's article repeatedly emphasizes the importance of exports in Chile's economic improvements. Massive copper reserves make that possible.
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Old 02-27-2012, 02:37 AM
 
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You do realize that it is illegal for hospitals to refuse care, whether or not you have insurance or are in the country legally, right?
You do realize that only applies to hospitals with emergency departments, and they only have to stabilize you?

So if you get sick with something serious, you got a good chance of dying. The hospitals only have to give medical care when you are so far gone that it qualifies as an emergency, and only have to treat you until stable. So if you got a severe stroke or a car crash you'll be ok (until the bills arrive). Cancer, pneumonia, tetanus etc -you're out of luck.
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Old 02-27-2012, 02:43 AM
 
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ever been to chile ?
I have

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I have, you're more than welcome to move down there
The old Love it or leave it,

hee haw!!!
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:26 AM
 
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This post s funny. Chile is by far the most right wing country in South America. If you want to look at a really left wing country, take a look at Venezuela. In Venezuela the left kept winning, and then a party even further to the left beat the previous left.

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The US does not have a safety net. European countries , Canada, Japan, Australia, Chile, and Argentina, etc ( I cant name all ) have safety nets.
Such BS. Take a look at Australia. Their economic freedom is ranked higher. They have a national right to work law, they certainly don't have rent control. Their health care is more market orientated, as private health care is not completely overregulated. US covers pretty much anyone already and obamacare wll soon be implemented (which includes even more regulation). Also, Australia spends less, has a lower percentage of the population on some kind of welfare.

The idea that America is some kind of capitalist paradise is an outdated idea from the 80s.


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We pay the same (very close) amount of taxes that Canadians pay (% of income) but the difference is that our tax money goes to finance the US army (Tomahawk missiles, soldiers, F22 Raptors, war tech, etc etc), while other countries put that money in a safety net aka social security systems that are actually Social to take care of their population.
Except, the army is 10% of the government budget. Yes, it is 50% of discretionary spending, but it is 10% of state and federal spending. This amount has never been lower.
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:51 AM
 
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The US does not have a safety net. European countries , Canada, Japan, Australia, Chile, and Argentina, etc ( I cant name all ) have safety nets.
If you are disabled you qualify for social security benefits. If you are shot and go to the emergency room you can't be turned away by the law. Those are two prime examples of a safety net. You can complain about it not going far enough but to claim one doesn't exist due to one factor is being extremely ignorant.
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:44 AM
 
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There has been civil unrest recently, so things can't be all that well in Chile.

If up-to-date poverty criteria were applied, the rate would be between 25 and 30%
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