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Old 09-07-2007, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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CAIRO, Egypt — Usama bin Laden appeared for the first time in three years in a videotape Friday released ahead of the 6th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, telling Americans they should convert to Islam if they want the war in Iraq to end, according to a transcript obtained by FOX News.

The videotape, which runs about 30 minutes long, appeared to have been recently made, since bin Laden refers to the Democratic victory in Congress and to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who was elected in May.

Bin Laden made no overt threats and did not directly call for attacks, according to the transcript. Instead, he addresses Americans, lecturing them on the failures of their leaders to stop the war in Iraq despite growing public opposition in the U.S.

Click here to read the transcript of Usama bin Laden video (pdf).

"There are two solutions to stopping it. One is from our side, and it is to escalate the fighting and killing against you. This is our duty, and our brothers are carrying it out," bin Laden said, according to the transcript.

"The second solution is from your side," he said. "I invite you to embrace Islam."

FOXNews.com - New Usama Bin Laden Video Urges Americans to Convert to Islam - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News
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Old 09-08-2007, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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That has been their goal all along, but of course nobody will approach this topic.. don't want to offend the religion of peace or anything like that.....
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Your mind
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So you're assuming that Muslims as a whole group of people agree uniformly with Osama Bin Laden, with no brains or thoughts of their own? Do all Christians agree with Pat Robertson?
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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Bin Laden asks the U.S. to convert to Islam - Yeah right, and go back a thousand years in time.

If his idea of "peace" is suicide bombings and killing innocent civilians, he'd better learn the real definition of peace - God's peace, which is the peace given to us by God's only begotten son Jesus, not bin Laden's peace.

Peace is also the world without radical Islamists like him.
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:43 AM
 
Location: in my imagination
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convert?????

yeah when



taste some of this Osama.....
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:56 AM
 
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why would he want to convert the west? we will disappear as a major race in 30 years anyway. he should be more concerned with converting china, latin america, india, africa...they will replace us.
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Old 09-08-2007, 12:06 PM
 
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So you're assuming that Muslims as a whole group of people agree uniformly with Osama Bin Laden, with no brains or thoughts of their own? Do all Christians agree with Pat Robertson?
I don't recall anyone saying that "all muslims---as a whole---agree uniformly" about anything, and your statement is fallacious and unfair. What I DO recall, though, is many people, including me, who have said, and continue to say that, "Only a percentage of Muslims, apparently, agree with the murderous violent tactics and hateful messages of the terrorists. The Muslim population as a whole, however, has done an exceedingly poor job of disassociating themselves from these wackos, to the point that many of us "outsiders" find it easy to conclude that their silence in the matter indicates their support for terrorism. In addition", we go on to say, "many polls both here, in Europe, and in the Middle East, do indicate substantial support for 'suicide bombers'; and this makes it very difficult for us 'infidels' to take seriously the assertation that Islam is really just a 'Religion of Peace' . And by the way, 'Infidel' isn't a very friendly word; and in OUR western culture, a 'Martyr' is someone who is killed, against his will, for refusing to renounce his faith, NOT a suicidal murderer willing to blow up innocent passers-by. So perhaps there's a bit of a problem in communication here".....

THAT is the message I've been getting......Sorry if you see things differently.
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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Pretty much sums up the message I'm getting macmeal.

Of course 100% of any group of people is not going to agree on anything, but there seems to be a plethora of mute muslims siding against the extremists...
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:07 PM
 
Location: SanAnFortWAbiHoustoDalCentral, Texas
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Okay, macmeal, I fully understand the following part of your message.

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The Muslim population as a whole, however, has done an exceedingly poor job of disassociating themselves from these wackos, to the point that many of us "outsiders" find it easy to conclude that their silence in the matter indicates their support for terrorism. In addition", we go on to say, "many polls both here, in Europe, and in the Middle East, do indicate substantial support for 'suicide bombers'; and this makes it very difficult for us 'infidels' to take seriously the assertation that Islam is really just a 'Religion of Peace'.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:46 PM
 
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why would he want to convert the west? we will disappear as a major race in 30 years anyway. he should be more concerned with converting china, latin america, india, africa...they will replace us.

"Western Civilization" includes Latin America. Spanish is a "Romance" language. "Romance" = Latin based = Rome = a quintessential Western Civilization.

Nonetheless, the "West" isn't going anywhere, population-wise or otherwise, so enough.
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