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Old 02-29-2012, 01:09 PM
 
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Believing in God and believing in Jesus Christ are two different things. Islamists believe in God - not in Christ.

I don't know any Christians who get violent against unbelievers. I don't recall any news stories either. Do you know any?
How about the people who kill abortion doctors and bomb clinics? Perfect example.

How about the IRA?

There is a LONG list of Christian violence.
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:10 PM
 
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Most of the attempts to strip the Constitution are not coming from Muslims
I'm glad you post "most" in your statement.

And even if they are not a part of an effort to remove the Constitution, they would gladly take advantage if the Constitution was removed.
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:10 PM
 
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"Is anti-Sharia legislation is necessary?"

No.

I believe that those advocating such legislation are expressing their prejudice, and sometimes racism against a group of people who choose to worship differently than they do. They're the low-lifes in our society, the advocates.
When did Muslims become a race?

Radical Islam is every much a political movement as it is religious. Therefore, this issue is not simply defined to 1st Amendment arguements.
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:12 PM
 
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I'm glad you post "most" in your statement.

And even if they are not a part of an effort to remove the Constitution, they would gladly take advantage if the Constitution was removed.
Why focus on a group who isn't part of the effort to remove the law that would prevent Sharia law? If someone is so concerned about Sharia law, focus on the movement that is trying to destroy the laws that prevent it. What do you think?
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:15 PM
 
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How about the people who kill abortion doctors and bomb clinics? Perfect example.

How about the IRA?

There is a LONG list of Christian violence.
Got examples of abortion violence?

Was the IRA fighting for Christian causes? I'm asking because I don't know and haven't looked it up - but figured you would know since you made the claim.

And what's the LONG list? - And don't take me back to the stone ages - the last 20-30 years please.
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:15 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Believing in God and believing in Jesus Christ are two different things. Islamists believe in God - not in Christ.

I don't know any Christians who get violent against unbelievers. I don't recall any news stories either. Do you know any?
Like I said.....being held off. Many Christians would love Government enforced Christain law. having said that sharia is not in the category with this. These people (sharia) would not let me say this statement. Also my wife would be a problem since (damn it) she thinks for herself
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The Florida Republicans wrote an anti-muslim bill, basically declaring that any court decision which is influenced by religion (or foreign law) will be VOID. Now the Jews are outraged, because the law makes the Jewish court Beth Din illegal. They have been operating the Jewish courts around the country for a long time, and most people didn't even know they existed. They exist for Jews to settle their own civil disputes like prenups, child custody, loans etc.

The republican anti-religion bill may have had the right intentions, but as usual the unintended consequences far outweigh any benefits that bill may have had.
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:17 PM
 
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Why focus on a group who isn't part of the effort to remove the law that would prevent Sharia law? If someone is so concerned about Sharia law, focus on the movement that is trying to destroy the laws that prevent it. What do you think?
That's what I said in the OP - don't change the laws, deal with the people, or in this case, the people in the movement.
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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When did Muslims become a race?

Radical Islam is every much a political movement as it is religious. Therefore, this issue is not simply defined to 1st Amendment arguements.
Yes LLM you are right.........omg wait.
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Odd how we have reams of un-necessary feel good laws bulging on our books so the rationale for not establishing anti sharia laws as being
un-necessary is a wash.

US judges have begun to rule in favor of sharia laws in cases across the country. sharia is simultaneously religious/civil law meted out in lieu of secular law as established in the US. It is therfore a legal predicament as ruling in consideration of sharia is to mingle religious with secular.

If the judges do not use discretion in their rulings then either we remove those judges or establish anti-sharia laws or more wonderfully remove all 'feel good' laws.
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