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Unread 02-29-2012, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Originally Posted by ChocLot View Post
Standard BS line when you don't want to get caught up in a media firestorm.
But there was more in the article:

Late Tuesday, Johnson received a letter of apology from the Rev. Barry Knestout, one of the archdiocese’s highest-ranking administrators, who said the lack of “kindness” she and her family received “is a cause of great concern and personal regret to me.”
“I am sorry that what should have been a celebration of your mother’s life, in light of her faith in Jesus Christ, was overshadowed by a lack of pastoral sensitivity,” Knestout wrote. “I hope that healing and reconciliation with the Church might be possible for you and any others who were affected by this experience. In the meantime, I will offer Mass for the happy repose of your mother’s soul. May God bring you and your family comfort in your grief and hope in the Resurrection"[end quote]

This priest understands humanity and compassion; the other priest puts himself before Christ, whose associates were considered sinners by the
Sanhedrin...gentiles, tax collectors, a temple priestess. The priest who judged Ms. Johnson unfit for consolation has no business dealing with the general Catholic body.
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Unread 02-29-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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I'm sure she has a civil rights attorney on speed dial.
Receiving communion is not a "civil right".
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Unread 02-29-2012, 04:16 PM
 
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Receiving communion is not a "civil right".

That's right!
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Unread 02-29-2012, 04:23 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Also, who put this funeral together? Why didn't they make sure they had a tolerant church/priest for this funeral?
Do you realize how ridiculous that question is?

Why should a priest be "tolerant" of unrepentant sin, and offer communion? Do you understand anything at all about sin, redemption, and what it means to take communion?

Amazing. <shaking my head in amazement>
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Unread 02-29-2012, 04:26 PM
 
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Read. The. Article.

"Archdiocese officials at first issued a short statement saying that the priest’s actions were against “policy” and that they would look into it as a personnel issue."
Uh...your quote is does not speak to "politics" in any way whatsoever.

Incorrectly following archdiocese rules is not equivalent to inserting politics into the situation. The one does not imply the other.

So before you take an attitude and tell people to "Read. The. Article" I suggest you follow your own advice, and this time actually try to read for comprehension.
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Unread 02-29-2012, 04:27 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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There's a time and a place to make your political point.
The greatest moment of grief in someone's life isn't it.

That being said, how the hell did her sexuality even come up at a funeral?
It's possible that the priest already knew of this, and that she was unrepentant.

Can we quit using this trite phrase, please? "That being said ..." It doesn't make you sound more intelligent. That phrase is so overworked! It is not needed to make you point.
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Unread 02-29-2012, 04:31 PM
 
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If you live by Church rules, you can participate in Church sacraments.
If you openly defy Church rules, then you don't get Church sacraments.
There was a dude who said something to religious elders about standing on rules vs. being an agent of mercy and forgiveness. Jewish, long hair - what was that name again?
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Unread 02-29-2012, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I'm sure she has a civil rights attorney on speed dial.
Yeah and her case will go nowhere.
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Unread 02-29-2012, 05:19 PM
 
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I'm sure there is no civil rights issue here and none will be brought up. It just isn't so.
I do wonder why anyone would want to take part in a church that has such an attitude about one's private life.
To the rest of us, it's just a cracker, right? Why would this sad daughter care what the church does or thinks about her soul regarding who she loves?
Perhaps she shouldn't have gone up for the cracker if she knew the church denies her soul. If it was simply a matter of choice for the priest, shame on him for cruelty.
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Unread 02-29-2012, 05:31 PM
 
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Where is this church policy so that we can all read it. Are you Catholic? Do you know the requirements for taking/accepting communion?
From what I've read, Canon Law 915 is why the priest refused---

'Those who have been excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or declaration of the penalty and others obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion.'

That's the same canon some Catholic leaders use who've called for refusing communion to politicians who support abortion.
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