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Old 02-29-2012, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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See, when Republicans use the republican/representative democratic process to their advantage, it's obstructive. What is it called when democrats obstruct for partisan reasons?

Statement of Governor Bob McDonnell on Senate Democrats' Unprecedented Party Line Rejection of Both Senate and House Budgets
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:29 PM
 
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Thats a llittle different, they are pushing extreme bills in regards to abortion, guns etc.
Repubs in congress are obstructing to their own ideas and bills that use to be routine
3 yrs ago.

hell obama healthcare plan is the same thing repubs proposed to clinton in 1994.
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:31 PM
 
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"National Conversation" is a phrase used when liberals may look at something they agree upon from a bit of a different angle.

MSNBC uses the phrase "National Conversation" about 17 times every morning.
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Thats a llittle different.
That's all I needed to hear. Thanks for proving my point.
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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A bill not passing because it does not have enough votes to pass a full up and down vote is not exactly the same as having enough votes to pass a bill, but not allowing a full up or down vote to tale place.
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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A bill not passing because it does not have enough votes to pass a full up and down vote is not exactly the same as having enough votes to pass a bill, but not allowing a full up or down vote to tale place.
Keep the excuses flowing in on an unprecedented party-line vote in Virginia's history. Point is, ANYTIME a conservative votes against liberal/progressive interests, he/she is "obstructionist" regardless of situation .
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Old 02-29-2012, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Keep the excuses flowing in on an unprecedented party-line vote in Virginia's history. Point is, ANYTIME a conservative votes against liberal/progressive interests, he/she is "obstructionist" regardless of situation .
No, you are simply making things up.

The obstructionist label was being used for bills that had enough votes to pass, but were being blocked from an up or down vote via filibuster or filibuster threat. The 'obstructionist' label was not being used for bills that simply did not have enough votes to pass.
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Old 02-29-2012, 11:58 PM
 
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See, when Republicans use the republican/representative democratic process to their advantage, it's obstructive. What is it called when democrats obstruct for partisan reasons?

Statement of Governor Bob McDonnell on Senate Democrats' Unprecedented Party Line Rejection of Both Senate and House Budgets
Largely, the idiots on the right/left think the same things that people on the left/right think when people use things like this. Another good example is the President giving a speech to kids. When Reagan did it, Democrat idiots were up in arms. When Obama does it, Republican idiots were up in arms. Those in the middle typically take a more balanced point of view.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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A bill not passing because it does not have enough votes to pass a full up and down vote is not exactly the same as having enough votes to pass a bill, but not allowing a full up or down vote to tale place.
Heck, Reid won't even allow discussions on the bills in committee.
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Old 07-26-2014, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Depends on what or whom they're obstructing; If they're obstructing lunatics like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Paul Ryan, et al, I'm all for it.
Then their is your evil twin on the other side of the aisle that thinks if they are obstructing Pelosi, Reid, Sanders,Warren, he is all for it. You get my drift?
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