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Old 03-03-2012, 03:56 PM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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This is a sorry day, indeed. Definitely time for people of Faith, Families of Traditional Values, Social Conservatives, Constitutionalists to pull your kids from the public schools. The trashing of Christianity and traditional values has been going on for quite a while, although usually snuck in through the literature books, but the door is now wide open for it. Religious freedom is being washed away.
You won't be missed, but I feel sorry for your children. If you want to teach them the earth is flat, the sun and starts revolve around the earth, and that your "god" created everything a few thousand years ago, you and yours will be unable to function. The rest of us prefer to retain the advances in knowledge we've made since the Dark Ages.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:01 PM
 
Location: On the road
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Well, looking at the document from the case

http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastor...9/09-56689.pdf

I think the OP is incorrect.
Firstly, the teacher is also Christian, so the argument seems to be more of a doctrinal dispute that an attack on "Christianity"

From what I read, SCOTUS had no choice but to refuse to hear the case.


The kid should have sucked it up and stayed in the class. He might have learned something about history.
Now he is getting an education in Constitutional Law.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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You have the right to believe as you wish. You do not have the right to be protected from ridicule for having such beliefs.
I never thought I had a right to ridicule the religious beliefs of students while I taught in the public schools. Now California secularists can get by with it to the point that Christians may have to send their kids to private schools. You really don't see what has happened with the First Amendment with this ruling, do you?
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Good call by the 9th Circuit and SCOTUS. I applaud them.
Did you read the last three paragraphs of the link?
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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As Mark Twian said “Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool"

Reading the ruling and what was presented in the case, the decision did not alter the freedom of speech or religion for anyone, in any way.
Did you read the words the teacher spoke to the kid often? Maybe you should try reading the whole link and not just the words I posted.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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As I like to do in such cases, I had to have a look at the judges behind this ruling.

The original decision came from District Court Judge James Selna, appointed by President George W. Bush.

The three-judge Ninth Circuit panel that issued the unanimous ruling which the United States Supreme Court has judged worthy of standing consisted of two Clinton appointees and one Reagan appointee.
Hmmmmmm, maybe some of our people can understand what you say, but I doubt it.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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You won't be missed, but I feel sorry for your children. If you want to teach them the earth is flat, the sun and starts revolve around the earth, and that your "god" created everything a few thousand years ago, you and yours will be unable to function. The rest of us prefer to retain the advances in knowledge we've made since the Dark Ages.
Did you read any words in that link other than the p osted ones? I guess not but you aren't alone.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Did you read the last three paragraphs of the link?
Cripes, Roy. You know that I always read your entire link before offering a comment.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:15 PM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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Did you read any words in that link other than the p osted ones? I guess not but you aren't alone.
You're not very good at guessing are you? Just to be clear, you guessed wrong. The link contains so much in the way of flimsy rhetorical attempts to evoke outrage (as opposed to facts) that I admit I found it too tiresome and not worth my time to read anymore than the first four paragraphs.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Michigan--good on the rocks
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Did you read any words in that link other than the p osted ones? I guess not but you aren't alone.
Did you read any links other than the ideological review contained in your link? Like, say, the actual court ruling or transcripts of what was actually said by the teacher? I guess not. You might start here :

C.F. EX REL. FARNAN v. CAPISTRANO UNIFIED SCHOOL*-*Argued and Submitted February 11, 2011.

This is the court's opinion; the official one. Corbett did not violate the law. We do not have the right to never have our views challenged.

That's exactly what Corbett did; he challenged student's views. That does not equate to ridiculing them.

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