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Old 03-06-2012, 07:54 AM
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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Originally Posted by Greg_IA View Post
Then let us take our money out of the public education system when we pull our kids out.
Only if you primise that your kids won't become an even bigger burden to society later on.

We have friends who used to belong to a religious nutjob commune called "Earth People" or similar. Sooooo religous. Didn't believe in edjacashun, it was all evil. The children born there didn't get much schooing as they were expected to work harvesting and packing produce so the commune could make money.

Well those kids are adults now (and Earth People no longer exists) and they are mad as hell about what their parents got them into. See they've figured out that without reading comprehension, basic math skills, they are condemned to take the simplest menial jobs they can get. So what are they doing? Taking advantage of FREE one on one literacy and remedial grade school programs for adult learning. That's right, the money they "saved" by not paying property taxes which would have given their kids a basic starting point to be contributing members of society was withheld from them because their parents were blinded by this religious hogwash. The cost of getting these near 30 year old to the point where they can help their grade school kids with their homework is easily 20 times that.

So please, don't come here with the "I'm going to take my $3,000 / yr and go somewhere else whine. Seen the long-term results of it often enough.
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Old 03-06-2012, 08:35 AM
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Religion is full of stuff of little sustenance - you cannot dine on it - and too much of it will make you sick in spirit. Perhaps if it is made public school fare students will lose their taste for it.
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:34 AM
Location: On the road
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Originally Posted by Clark Park View Post
It is not right to ridicule a student because of his or her sexual orientation.

It is not right to ridicule a student because of his or her skin color or ethnicity.

It is not right to ridicule a student because of his or her religion.

My question is: was the kid being ridiculed because of his religion - Christianity? The report on this story says the teacher himself is a Christian. Was the teacher also ridiculing himself? I think there is more to this story.

Suppose you are a science teacher discussing the nature of the earth's moon, it's origin and mineralogical make-up and the Apollo moon landings. You have a student who is a fundamentalist Muslim who believes (as I have been told) that the Quran says is it not a planetary satellite but nothing more than "pure light" and non-matter. How do you address the class without insulting the one Muslim student, yet teaching according to all the accepted scientific criteria and the very text-book the students are using? I believe the teacher has a right to stand his ground.

Another question: if the one Christian student feels the teacher was ridiculing Christianity, how did the other students in the class feel about it? Did any other student join in the legal suit against the teacher? Surely there must have been at least one other Christian in the room besides the teacher and the one student?

Apparently, the teacher was not ridiculing the particular student. He was making statements that the student took offense to.

Rather than argue his point, the student just quit the class.
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