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Old 03-13-2012, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
I don't have an issue with an ID at first thought, but what else will you be required to use an ID for?
Gee, I dunno...
Cash a check
Buy beer
Rent an apartment
Check out a library book
Be admitted to a hospital
Get any kind of license
Get on an airplane
Do any banking
Drive a car
OK...I quit, the list is nearly infinite.


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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
Maybe it is underreported, but i still don't think it's significant enough to require an ID. What we have now is working fine. No system is 100% foolproof. If we've had an election that was thrown one way or the other because of voter fraud in recent years, then show me. Until then, i remain pretty damn skeptical.
People voting illegally is not "significant" to you?
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Old 03-13-2012, 01:35 AM
 
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Oh HERE YOU GO!

Naplesnews.com
http://www.naplesnews.com/blogs/coun...ppppppppppppp/

NY Democrat: Voter Fraud Is A 'Normal Political Tactic
As the city of Troy, NY, awaits jury selection in the first trial involving two Democrats and their alleged roles in a “massive” voter fraud scheme, new details have emerged from the investigation.
http://nation.foxnews.com/voter-frau...litical-tactic
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Old 03-13-2012, 03:31 AM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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Naplesnews.com
proof of Democrat voter fraud : Council for Constitutional Principles : Naples Blogs : Naples Daily News: Local Naples, Florida News Delivered Throughout the Day.


NY Democrat: Voter Fraud Is A 'Normal Political Tactic
As the city of Troy, NY, awaits jury selection in the first trial involving two Democrats and their alleged roles in a “massive” voter fraud scheme, new details have emerged from the investigation.

NY Democrat: Voter Fraud Is A 'Normal Political Tactic' - Voter Fraud - Fox Nation


There are more if you need them
Yes I do need them, show me the "massive" numbers of people committing voter fraud.
Not one single instance has been shown in this entire thread.

Republicans are continually screaming about "massive" voter fraud but keep coming up with three or four people nation wide. That disproves the allegations of Republicans!!!

So now conservatives on this board are back tracking with the "even one case is too much".

No one stated that one case wasn't too much, but again it disproves the continual allegations made by Republicans of "massive" voter fraud.
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Old 03-13-2012, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Originally Posted by Speleothem View Post
You beat me to it.
More felons voted illegally in that
election than the margin of victory.
Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over The Top In Minnesota, Study Finds | Fox News
Can you find anything other than Fox?
It's not like they're news (they sued to be not classified as news).
I guess you forgot about the aftermath & findings (mostly republicans on the panel) of the Minnesota vote.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...t_accurate.php
“They claimed in November 2009 to have 800 additional individuals who were illegal felon voters,” Freeman said. “When they summited names to us in late February 2010, it was down to 451. We have processed that 451, and more than half of them were either not felons or not on probation when they voted.

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Old 03-13-2012, 05:12 AM
 
Location: 77441
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Im curious as to how anyone can LEGALLY exist in this country without a photo ID ?
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Old 03-13-2012, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The voter restriction efforts are purly political. In the long run, there is a need to establish a National Federal standard and the proper time taken, to put the standard into play.
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Old 03-13-2012, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Earth
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/op...ter-fraud.html
None of these explanations are true. There is almost no voting fraud in America. And none of the lawmakers who claim there is have ever been able to document any but the most isolated cases. The only reason Republicans are passing these laws is to give themselves a political edge by suppressing Democratic votes.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...oting-20110830
[i]"What has happened this year is the most significant setback to voting rights in this country in a century," says Judith Browne-Dianis, who monitors barriers to voting as co-director of the Advancement Project, a civil rights organization based in Washington, D.C.

http://www.truthaboutfraud.org/pdf/TruthAboutVoterFraud.pdf (broken link)
It is more likely that an individual will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.

The third link provides a comprehensive document on voting and allegations of all types of fraud.
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Old 03-13-2012, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Im curious as to how anyone can LEGALLY exist in this country without a photo ID ?
Constitutional right to privacy is implied in several Amendments. That has been the Supreme Court's interpretation for several decades.
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Old 03-13-2012, 05:33 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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I'll stop when you refute the numbers.
Here's a thought........

Let's just use the numbers for convictions.......that'll make it look REAL good on paper.

Oh wait, that's fraudulent too.

My bad.

Speleothem said it here:

Quote:
Gee, I dunno...
Cash a check
Buy beer
Rent an apartment
Check out a library book
Be admitted to a hospital
Get any kind of license
Get on an airplane
Do any banking
Drive a car
OK...I quit, the list is nearly infinite.
Justify having no ID for the most responsibility related action as a citizen.
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Im curious as to how anyone can LEGALLY exist in this country without a photo ID ?
Well it's getting harder to do with DHS and the War on (pick your enemy) and all that.
I had to show ID to buy a 50lb bag of fertilizer.
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