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You didn't answer the ?. Repeat again. Why can't the requirements just be using your current DL, passport, or whatever else is ALREADY issued by the state or federal government?
To make voters have to go out and get a card just for the sole purpose of voting, just reeks of oppression and most people who will be effected by it are people more likely to vote democrat and these laws (like the one being implemented in PA, Santorum's state) are made by Republicans.
The Democrats are not in favor, come on Pubs, of having anyone show up with no ID and just voting. But why, after decades, when DL's and similar ID's have been acceptable, well, why are they no longer acceptable to the GOP now?
Which states require a separate ID other than state issued DL or other federal ID?
Unless there is some issue with the ID (Washington gives illegals drivers licenses) they should be adequate.
HOWEVER, if the GOP is coming up with laws requiring photo ID's that are meant only for the purpose of voting, when 99% of people already have at least a state issued ID, that's horse hockey and really reeks of oppression.
So, if you can answer as neutrally as possible, are they trying to do the latter, or just enforce the former, which, is reasonable, if they only want to use ID's that most people already have, without making up new ones and disguising it under "voter integrity"?
You need valid State issued identification. Period.
If we had that, then students would not get to vote twice, once by absentee ballot, and then once near the university they attend.
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You need valid State issued identification. Period.
If we had that, then students would not get to vote twice, once by absentee ballot, and then once near the university they attend.
Get it?
Commonly sensible...
Mircea
So, combine something in a current DL, like a mircochip, that prevents that, as opposed to making a new voter ID card?
The %tage of students doing what you're talking about makes up maybe 2% of the total votes max anyway. Not a real serious issue.
I'm glad I lean liberal and progressive, however, I don't have a major issue with requiring a govt. issued ID to vote.
I mean, if you need one to cash a check, why wouldn't you need one to vote.
HOWEVER, if the GOP is coming up with laws requiring photo ID's that are meant only for the purpose of voting, when 99% of people already have at least a state issued ID, that's horse hockey and really reeks of oppression.
So, if you can answer as neutrally as possible, are they trying to do the latter, or just enforce the former, which, is reasonable, if they only want to use ID's that most people already have, without making up new ones and disguising it under "voter integrity"?
State issued ID's are fine. Take this up with the Obama administration.
We have to show ID here in my state. That is as it shoud be, if you want to maintain the integrity of elections. But the Democrats use fraud to get their candidates elected. That is why they are against ID.
So, combine something in a current DL, like a mircochip, that prevents that, as opposed to making a new voter ID card?
The %tage of students doing what you're talking about makes up maybe 2% of the total votes max anyway. Not a real serious issue.
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State issued ID's are fine. Take this up with the Obama administration.
We have to show ID here in my state. That is as it shoud be, if you want to maintain the integrity of elections. But the Democrats use fraud to get their candidates elected. That is why they are against ID.
They are against ID that isn't neccessary when state issued ID's are already in place.
They are against ID that isn't neccessary when state issued ID's are already in place.
Are you aware that MANY states do not require ANY sort of identification at the voting booth (I live in one of those states and all I need to give is my name)? That's the beef "we" have. State ID's are fine with me, there's no need to create a completely separate ID just to vote.
I'm glad I lean liberal and progressive, however, I don't have a major issue with requiring a govt. issued ID to vote.
I mean, if you need one to cash a check, why wouldn't you need one to vote.
HOWEVER, if the GOP is coming up with laws requiring photo ID's that are meant only for the purpose of voting, when 99% of people already have at least a state issued ID, that's horse hockey and really reeks of oppression.
So, if you can answer as neutrally as possible, are they trying to do the latter, or just enforce the former, which, is reasonable, if they only want to use ID's that most people already have, without making up new ones and disguising it under "voter integrity"?
I do not believe the GOP is wishing a voter ID that is "just" for voting! That would be wallet-crowding and so wasteful. It is not just a GOP idea. I voted many times in the state of Hawaii and they required a govt. issued photo ID every time, and the name on my ID had to match a computer printout, every time.
That eleven percent is from the Brennan Justice Center. It is contradicted by other sources. This center is founded by the New York U. School of Law.
David B. Muhlhausen, Ph.D. a senior analyst for the Heritage Foundation reports that the number of voters without Photo ID is much lower. An excellent report on the numbers and this issue which has plenty of substantiation is found here...
Naturally, conservative organizations report lower numbers and liberal ones report higher. No surprise there.
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