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I'm not really on either side of the equation, because I can accept the pros and cons of both sides. I'm not sure how something like this would work if implemented into our system.
I think the biggest impediment to this is simply timing. I wouldn't vouch for UHC in the middle of the second worse financial crises in our country's history. Perhaps when we're back in the green, maybe.
either way, it's disingenuous to suggest that Germany's system will work. Germany currently has something like a 4-5% unemployment rate and they do have UHC. Greece also has it and has triple the UE rate. Just "sticking it in" there doesn't mean that our current financial situation will mimic Germany's.
A true single payer HCS will work anywhere regardless of unemployment rate unless we're talking about half the population not working. The Germans have made it as simple as making a hot dog.
Germany doesn't have immigrants and illegals? That's news to me.
Can you provide proof of that?
They have TONS of immigrants and "illegals." He'll never be able to provide you proof otherwise.
Besides, having immigrants and illegals has nothing to do with the effectiveness of single payer health coverage. That's just a right wing talking point.
A true single payer HCS will work anywhere regardless of unemployment rate unless we're talking about half the population not working. The Germans have made it as simple as making a hot dog.
A single payer program is probably the worst way to approach the matter given the current financial situation and UE problem. If enough people aren't employed and just continue to "take" along with the other social services, I don't see how it could improve the matter. All this fuzzy wuzzy math just doesn't seem to add up. My advice? Get us back in the green--then let's talk freebees again.
They have TONS of immigrants and "illegals." He'll never be able to provide you proof otherwise.
Besides, having immigrants and illegals has nothing to do with the effectiveness of single payer health coverage. That's just a right wing talking point.
Of course illegal immigrant have a huge impact on healthcare. They do not pay for it yet use our resources.
They have TONS of immigrants and "illegals." He'll never be able to provide you proof otherwise.
Besides, having immigrants and illegals has nothing to do with the effectiveness of single payer health coverage. That's just a right wing talking point.
A single payer program is probably the worst way to approach the matter given the current financial situation and UE problem. If enough people aren't employed and just continue to "take" along with the other social services, I don't see how it could improve the matter. All this fuzzy wuzzy math just doesn't seem to add up. My advice? Get us back in the green--then let's talk freebees again.
I'm not talking about the whole UE...i'm talking about Germany.
I'm not saying that you do what they do line for line. I'm saying that we're in a unique position to take the best of everyone's system...including our own, and make something unique for our nation. But what we're doing NOW is bankrupting the system. So it's unconscionable to continue doing it just because we're presently in the red. That's assbackwards.
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