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While I don't have all the facts or know the whole story, from what details I've heard, Zimmerman pursued Trayvon and is therefore exempt from being covered under the "stand your ground" law, and is guilty of murder or mansluaghter. But to all of those so convinced this was a hate crime and racially motivated, I think there is substancial evidence pointing to him not being a racist, but just an idiot.
Group offers $10,000 for US black teen's killer - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/10-000-reward-offered-us-black-teens-killer-201659364.html - broken link)
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"Sonner said Zimmerman and his wife acted as mentors to two teenage African Americans, even after funding was cut for the program.
They have also helped at a fundraiser for an African-American church, according to the lawyer"
Thank goodness for laws like this. Many states including TX have a similar law. It allows me as a licensed gun holder to protect myself by taking my weapon anywhere I go. You'll never know I have a gun on me and you'll think twice about trying something to hurt me or my family.
It was such a great law by Florida that other states have copied. How's gun restriction in places like Chicago, Detroit & DC working out for you ? Not very well.
It's not working too well in FL. Since the Stand Your Ground law was signed homicides have tripled.
Including one two weeks ago in Tampa, where due to a road rage incident one driver shot and killed another....no charges....he felt threatened.
That's all you have to say "I felt threatened".
In other states a judge would say "well why did you pull over if you felt threatened"....not in the dumbshine state.
I have nothing against gun ownership, these days it's a good idea.
But FL is now loaded with people who never owned a gun before, aren't required to take any safety training, and now think they're Wyatt Earp.
About a year ago in my area an elderly man(retired transplant) witnessed a bank robbery in a strip mall. He reached for his gun in his glove compartment and started shooting in the direction of the robber.
Thank God he didn't hit anyboby who was walking in the parking lot.
I hate to sound so judgmental, but some serial killers were also well liked by their neighbors. How many times have we heard that a man who murdered his wife "seems like a nice guy?" I'm not saying Zimmerman is a serial killer or even a murderer, but it's really difficult to tell what is going through another person's mind.
Here is another article from the same publication.
Zimmerman described as a 'caring person,' had run-ins with the law - Lifestyle Wire - Teens | Tri-City Herald : Mid-Columbia news (http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2012/03/24/1878086/zimmerman-described-as-a-caring.html#storylink=mirelated - broken link)
"And another label has also stuck in the public's perception: frustrated cop wannabe.
Over the years, his scores of calls to police showed he pursued shoplifters and errant drivers with zeal, reporting pit bulls, potholes, children playing in the street, open garage doors and "suspicious" youths - usually black males - loitering in the street.
He peppered his calls with jargon familiar to police. In one case, he chased a reckless driver while calling 911 - the driver later told police he was terrified that Zimmerman was going to attack him. In another case, Zimmerman tailed a supermarket shoplifter until a police officer successfully arrested the thief."
He really sounds obsessive to me, as if he finally needed to take care of business, and Trayvor Martin was in the wrong place at the wrong time, doing nothing but taking a walk.
Yes; now you understand the passion of this loose coalition of posters who have been fighting so vigorously to refute the lies, distortions and yes, fake photos of Trayvon Martin. As a mother and an American, I want the kind of society where people can utilize their right to walk the streets without fearing that someone can pursue and kill you. The Martins have shown more grace in their grief than I could.
I hate to sound so judgmental, but some serial killers were also well liked by their neighbors. How many times have we heard that a man who murdered his wife "seems like a nice guy?" I'm not saying Zimmerman is a serial killer or even a murderer, but it's really difficult to tell what is going through another person's mind.
Here is another article from the same publication.
Zimmerman described as a 'caring person,' had run-ins with the law - Lifestyle Wire - Teens | Tri-City Herald : Mid-Columbia news (http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2012/03/24/1878086/zimmerman-described-as-a-caring.html#storylink=mirelated - broken link)
"And another label has also stuck in the public's perception: frustrated cop wannabe.
Over the years, his scores of calls to police showed he pursued shoplifters and errant drivers with zeal, reporting pit bulls, potholes, children playing in the street, open garage doors and "suspicious" youths - usually black males - loitering in the street.
He peppered his calls with jargon familiar to police. In one case, he chased a reckless driver while calling 911 - the driver later told police he was terrified that Zimmerman was going to attack him. In another case, Zimmerman tailed a supermarket shoplifter until a police officer successfully arrested the thief."
He really sounds obsessive to me, as if he finally needed to take care of business, and Trayvor Martin was in the wrong place at the wrong time, doing nothing but taking a walk.
Edit: if this is a true description of his actions over the past few years, this man has a bad case of hero syndrome. Seriously. Why is he chasing bad drivers and someone who shoplifted in a supermarket? I am very honest and would report a theft, but this isn't normal behavior.
He's obviously obsesssed with this stuff and the odds were against anything good coming of this obsession with being the neighborhood watch dog. His family did not recognize these disturbing actions? Jeez, his father was a judge. If he is arrested, he will be given a psychological exam, but too bad his family didn't urge him to get one sooner.
Yes; now you understand the passion of this loose coalition of posters who have been fighting so vigorously to refute the lies, distortions and yes, fake photos of Trayvon Martin. As a mother and an American, I want the kind of society where people can utilize their right to walk the streets without fearing that someone can pursue and kill you. The Martins have shown more grace in their grief than I could.
As a father and an American, I think most of us would agree with you on this in a perfect world.
You do have to give the family credit, losing a child is a terrible thing to suffer.
You wouldn't use force to stop someone in the process of murdering your mother or child ?
Personally, I believe that guns give people a false sense of security because chances are that you not necessarily be able to access your weapon for any and every situation.
So, lets say that you have a gun. You are skilled at using the gun. You carrying that gun on you everyday. Do you strap it to your body every second of every day? What if someone breaks into your house while you are in the shower. Do you have access to it at that point? What about while helping the kids do homework? Are you packing heat while helping little Johnny with his algebra? What if that carjacker approaches you so fast and out of the blue that you just didn't have the time to react? Its in your purse on the floor of the backseat, out of your reach.
Why would Zimmerman have to cry for help when he had a gun?
Maybe he didn't want to have to shoot him?
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What kind of help would he expect? Someone else with a bigger gun than a tec9 semi automatic? For those of you unschooled about firearms, this is the same weapon preferred by drug dealers/ gang bangers.
They like 9mm's because they're cheap. As far as damage goes, a 9mm is at the mid/lower end of the spectrum. A .357, .45 or .44 magnum are much more effective at killing people. Perhaps you are one of those who is "unschooled" about firearms.
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Originally Posted by harborlady
You're just as racist as any klansman. When an innocent American is killed by a home grown terrorist, I don't defend the terrorists "right" to kill them. You're a traitor to your country. Live elsewhere.
You seem to be quite the race baiter on this thread. Are you yourself not white and have a grudge against white people?
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