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Old 03-19-2012, 07:05 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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I travel often with an older person in a chair and they are patted down and the chair checked EVERY time.
The kid is innocent, but what more perfect place for a terrorist to hide plastic explosive than in the wheelchair of a child that wouldn't even know it is there?
Exactly. The complaints here are coming from people who I suspect have never traveled.
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:16 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Watch the latest "Southpark" for their skewering of the TSA. How they completely captured the mentality of the TSA and personified them so accurately was simply amazing.
That was a pretty funny episode...


South Park - TSA woman responds - YouTube


SOUTH PARK GOES UP AGAINST THE TSA! A Short Clip Alex Jones Infowars - YouTube
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:17 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Exactly. The complaints here are coming from people who I suspect have never traveled.
Just got off a plane yesterday, and in my 35 years I've literally traveled around the world - possibly more than you have in your lifetime. Matter of fact, I was born over 3000 miles from where I live now. So your assumptions are incorrect for me, and probably for most (if not all) of the people responding.
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:18 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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P.S. I wasn't patted down on my recent trip, but did have to go through the body scanner twice... and got my "beltline" patted quickly, for reasons I really can't explain. Those two things alone don't bother me, but I did see them fondling another passenger who looked rather uncomfortable with the whole situation.
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin's great north woods
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I bet anything the kid had a full beard...
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Maybe texdav = Texas disabled American veteran?

Maybe it's not a cell phone?
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:49 PM
 
Location: NC
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I travel often with an older person in a chair and they are patted down and the chair checked EVERY time.
The kid is innocent, but what more perfect place for a terrorist to hide plastic explosive than in the wheelchair of a child that wouldn't even know it is there?
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With all due respect, wise up.

Those wheelchairs are exactly where stuff can get into a plane. We are at wa with Radical Islam which wants us all dead. There is no debating with wanting us dead, so we take precautions.

We no longer live in a pre-9-11 world.
Do you also check under your bed for jihadists before you go to sleep?

As long as people like you are alive, the TSA and the government can run roughshod over our liberties and we wouldn't make any headway in getting them back. Yeah, radical Islam wants us all dead. They try to attack us, because over there in the Middle East, occupying THEM! We bomb the hell out of them, killing their men, women and children, DAILY! We kill them with drones in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Pakistan, Yemen and Libya, and now itching to go into Iran, Syria and Uganda. We have hundreds of military bases in the Middle East, in places the Muslims consider very holy to their religion. We desecrate their land. If we stop doing that, then they would stop too. But oh no, neocons like you who have been spoon-fed the "radical Islam" mantra will ensure that you vote more fascists into power, who usurp power incrementally, turning this into a goddamn police state.

TSA is an incredible waste of our tax dollars, and an incredible assault on our civil liberties. What better place for the perverts of the country to go and hide, but in the government-sanctioned sexual assault organization, the TSA? What if that person was a closet pedophile? You have stooped low enough to be OK with having a stranger fondle your toddler, but I certainly haven't.

This is not a right vs. left issue. This is a big government vs. We The People issue.
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:09 PM
 
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Do you also check under your bed for jihadists before you go to sleep?

As long as people like you are alive, the TSA and the government can run roughshod over our liberties and we wouldn't make any headway in getting them back.

I think he would fit right at home in North Korea where the elite live like kings, while some of the population are part of the military, a good portion of the rest of the population lives like dirt or is in prison labor camps making money for the elite. The North Korean Government just wants to keep you "safe" and protect you from the evil South Koreans and Evil Americans.

He would not like Russia though since you have to many "free loaders" living off of "others" via government housing, food etc.
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:43 PM
 
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Do you also check under your bed for jihadists before you go to sleep?

As long as people like you are alive, the TSA and the government can run roughshod over our liberties and we wouldn't make any headway in getting them back. Yeah, radical Islam wants us all dead. They try to attack us, because over there in the Middle East, occupying THEM! We bomb the hell out of them, killing their men, women and children, DAILY! We kill them with drones in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Pakistan, Yemen and Libya, and now itching to go into Iran, Syria and Uganda. We have hundreds of military bases in the Middle East, in places the Muslims consider very holy to their religion. We desecrate their land. If we stop doing that, then they would stop too. But oh no, neocons like you who have been spoon-fed the "radical Islam" mantra will ensure that you vote more fascists into power, who usurp power incrementally, turning this into a goddamn police state.

TSA is an incredible waste of our tax dollars, and an incredible assault on our civil liberties. What better place for the perverts of the country to go and hide, but in the government-sanctioned sexual assault organization, the TSA? What if that person was a closet pedophile? You have stooped low enough to be OK with having a stranger fondle your toddler, but I certainly haven't.

This is not a right vs. left issue. This is a big government vs. We The People issue.
It also is the precursor for what people might believe to be the true America, a bunch of whiny simpltons relingusihing their civil rights to the boogyman under the bed . You allow the first contact with U.S. policy and interaction to be a bunch of retarded highschool drop outs frisking you under the guise of making your air travel safer when in reality; EVERYONE knows a terrorist can bring down a plane full of folks without setting a foot within an airport environs.

America: "The home of the brave and land of the free" - what a bunch of crap!
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:45 PM
 
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Do you also check under your bed for jihadists before you go to sleep?

As long as people like you are alive, the TSA and the government can run roughshod over our liberties and we wouldn't make any headway in getting them back. Yeah, radical Islam wants us all dead. They try to attack us, because over there in the Middle East, occupying THEM! We bomb the hell out of them, killing their men, women and children, DAILY! We kill them with drones in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Pakistan, Yemen and Libya, and now itching to go into Iran, Syria and Uganda. We have hundreds of military bases in the Middle East, in places the Muslims consider very holy to their religion. We desecrate their land. If we stop doing that, then they would stop too. But oh no, neocons like you who have been spoon-fed the "radical Islam" mantra will ensure that you vote more fascists into power, who usurp power incrementally, turning this into a goddamn police state.

TSA is an incredible waste of our tax dollars, and an incredible assault on our civil liberties. What better place for the perverts of the country to go and hide, but in the government-sanctioned sexual assault organization, the TSA? What if that person was a closet pedophile? You have stooped low enough to be OK with having a stranger fondle your toddler, but I certainly haven't.

This is not a right vs. left issue. This is a big government vs. We The People issue.
So,...you really think removing our troops from the Middle East would neutralize the terrorist threat to America? You referenced the Muslim religion in your dialogue,...does that also include the part about eliminating the infidels,...those who are non-muslims?

As for flying,..what is your solution? Millions of Americans fly every year, and people like the "underwear bomber" and the "shoe bomber" have made it onboard aircrafts even with enhanced inspections. It is not clear how you would handle security at airports,...or if you would even try.

When I fly, although not often, I like to have a reasonable chance of reaching my destination without having a mid-air tragedy. Please advise the forum how you would ensure that reality.
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