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"Contraindicated" means not recommended. In this case, because of the estrogen in the pills. So if a breast cancer survivor can't use BC pills because of the estrogen, and can't use IUDs because of the legislature, what does that leave? Condoms? Oh, yay. And lots of people (males and females) are sensitive or allergic to spermicides.
To me, this epitomizes what is wrong with the Republican party and what it needs to do if it's to survive. Just like Santorum can't stay on message and drifts off into rants against homosexuals, Muslims and pushing Christianity as the state religion, the Republican party needs to focus on better government, economic issuess, and restoring America's position in the world, and stop trying to legislate personal morality to draw in the Independants, swing voters, and blue Democrats to become the dominate party again.
You folks can thank the partial abortion and rabid kill a baby whenever you want folks for this type of legislation. Perhaps your in laws should seek out a state that has laws that would fit their situation better. If they have this genetic defect they should adopt instead of trying to roll the dice and if they get seven pull out the hanger and get a new set of dice.
No you can thank dopes that have zero critical thinking skills.
My Inlaws case was a rare circumstance and you don't know you are at risk until you research what went wrong. In their case they had a healthy baby and no reason to think there would be an issue.
Also beware of negative consequences. You may see an increase in testing and conservative approach at 19 weeks instead of giving it more time to see development
Remember when the OWS crowd was running around taking sh*ts on cars and trashing the place?...with hundreds of arrest and even a reported case of rape?...That even with the mountain of videos, audios, interviews, and pictures and other evidence depicting various acts of idiocy and filth didn't matter because you couldn't generalize the whole OWS crowd with the actions of a few...really, all that evidence were just "isolated" occurrences...
and now here we have a few crazy right wingers and the left can't wait to generalize the entire GOP and the right with these few lunatics....liberals and their hypocrisy.
now the left seem to think they have no extremist on their side....please, you people are crawling with wackos...I mean just look up the stuff the OWS people did.....at least when large right wingers get together, (Tea Party) , the cops don't have to work over-time making arrests....so yeah , maybe you people should worry about your own crazies....
too be honest the left or the right doesn't look too sane.....so thinking that "independents" or "moderates" or whatever is going to flock to your side because the other side is "crazy"?...well, both sides are crazy.
the right doesn't want women to carry stillborns or hate women...thinking otherwise makes you an idiot.
There is no abortion if the baby is dead. Look up stillborn births. Doesn't the pregnancy end shortly after the baby dies in the womb? How long can a baby stay in the womb if it is dead? It certainly is not growing and probably shriveling and getting smaller.
Technically, removal of a retained dead fetus would be called a 'therapeutic abortion' (as opposed to 'elective' or 'spontaneous'). Not all IUFD's (intrauterine fetal deaths) progress to delivery on their own, which is why medical intervention is often necessary.
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Originally Posted by Emeraldmaiden
According to what I've read, the doctors normally want to induce pretty quickly. If the labor doesn't start naturally within two weeks, the normal procedure is to induce, and a late-term fetal death that doesn't naturally abort after four weeks increases risk of blood clots in the mother.
Yes, they normally do. I've yet to come across an IUFD case where the obstetrician recommended a 2-week postponement before intervening.
The risks to the mother -- DIC, chorioamnionitis, sepsis -- are very real.
IF this bill truly makes no exception for IUFD (and after reading it, I must admit to not being entirely certain), it is beyond the pale.
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I wonder why so many men are obsessing over females' reproduction systems? What has frightened these guys into this level of irrationality?
They're doing it because they simply think they can, and that they should.
appealing to the many zealots/evangelicals...many of whom believe that women must be subservient to men, and in so doing, be ever-ready to deliver more progeny
women in the workplace (by and large, women who have control of their fertility) are a threat to their earning potential and 'rightful place' in society...what better way to reduce our presence in colleges and the workforce than to keep us barefoot and pregnant, tied to too many children, and stripped of basic human rights?
IMO the 'end game' they have in mind has everything to do with eliminating any sense of control women currently have in their own lives. Anyone who thinks it will end with reproductive legislation has blinders on. Bills relating to violence against women (wanting to weaken the laws protecting us), wanting to redefine rape...I read about these things and my stomach turns in knots.
They'll shame us, silence us, weaken us, whatever it takes to make them feel they have total control and power over us.
You know, exactly what any other patriarchal bully would do.
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Remember when the OWS crowd was running around taking sh*ts on cars and trashing the place?...with hundreds of arrest and even a reported case of rape?...That even with the mountain of videos, audios, interviews, and pictures and other evidence depicting various acts of idiocy and filth didn't matter because you couldn't generalize the whole OWS crowd with the actions of a few...really, all that evidence were just "isolated" occurrences...
and now here we have a few crazy right wingers and the left can't wait to generalize the entire GOP and the right with these few lunatics....liberals and their hypocrisy.
now the left seem to think they have no extremist on their side....please, you people are crawling with wackos...I mean just look up the stuff the OWS people did.....at least when large right wingers get together, (Tea Party) , the cops don't have to work over-time making arrests....so yeah , maybe you people should worry about your own crazies....
too be honest the left or the right doesn't look too sane.....so thinking that "independents" or "moderates" or whatever is going to flock to your side because the other side is "crazy"?...well, both sides are crazy.
the right doesn't want women to carry stillborns or hate women...thinking otherwise makes you an idiot.
The OWS are NOT legislators introducing and PASSING bills aimed at restricting women's rights....
GIANT difference...
There's a massive amount of anti-women bills, about 1,100 . But even if there's only one, it's wrong....thinking otherwise makes a person an idiot.
Maybe, just maybe I'll stop calling all Republicans misogynist creeps with sexual identity problems and no sex life
IF just ONE would denounce these anti-women bills and speech by their fellow party members....but they don't, NONE do....so I will assume they are all creeps...
Remember when the OWS crowd was running around taking sh*ts on cars and trashing the place?...with hundreds of arrest and even a reported case of rape?...That even with the mountain of videos, audios, interviews, and pictures and other evidence depicting various acts of idiocy and filth didn't matter because you couldn't generalize the whole OWS crowd with the actions of a few...really, all that evidence were just "isolated" occurrences...
and now here we have a few crazy right wingers and the left can't wait to generalize the entire GOP and the right with these few lunatics....liberals and their hypocrisy.
now the left seem to think they have no extremist on their side....please, you people are crawling with wackos...I mean just look up the stuff the OWS people did.....at least when large right wingers get together, (Tea Party) , the cops don't have to work over-time making arrests....so yeah , maybe you people should worry about your own crazies....
too be honest the left or the right doesn't look too sane.....so thinking that "independents" or "moderates" or whatever is going to flock to your side because the other side is "crazy"?...well, both sides are crazy.
the right doesn't want women to carry stillborns or hate women...thinking otherwise makes you an idiot.
Well then, where is the outcry from the right? Where are the conservative women's groups denouncing these bills? If the majority of the GOP does not agree with all of these bills, how would we know that when they are completely silent?
Remember when the OWS crowd was running around taking sh*ts on cars and trashing the place?...with hundreds of arrest and even a reported case of rape?...That even with the mountain of videos, audios, interviews, and pictures and other evidence depicting various acts of idiocy and filth didn't matter because you couldn't generalize the whole OWS crowd with the actions of a few...really, all that evidence were just "isolated" occurrences...
and now here we have a few crazy right wingers and the left can't wait to generalize the entire GOP and the right with these few lunatics....liberals and their hypocrisy.
now the left seem to think they have no extremist on their side....please, you people are crawling with wackos...I mean just look up the stuff the OWS people did.....at least when large right wingers get together, (Tea Party) , the cops don't have to work over-time making arrests....so yeah , maybe you people should worry about your own crazies....
too be honest the left or the right doesn't look too sane.....so thinking that "independents" or "moderates" or whatever is going to flock to your side because the other side is "crazy"?...well, both sides are crazy.
the right doesn't want women to carry stillborns or hate women...thinking otherwise makes you an idiot.
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