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Old 03-20-2012, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Miami, Florida
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Well, one reason was that Republicans did not want to include ALL American citizens who were victims....such as gays... they must believe violence is A-OK against anyone THEY don't approve of...

How long will it be before conservatives start trying to introduce legislation again restricting how pants should be worn?
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:54 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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not only "wear a burka", but not be seen in public without a male escort. . . . . I wonder how that will go over with the "conservative" women. . . . . .
They will cheer for it and call rush and say mega dittos
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:00 AM
 
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That is your opinion until we have the facts.
No, it's a fact but if you can't google and learn for yourself then I guess you will remain ignorant of the issue...because no matter what I post you will deny the truth....
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:04 AM
 
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How long will it be before conservatives start trying to introduce legislation again restricting how pants should be worn?
Or make a law forbidding women to wear pants....something that has always frightened tiny men.


Sounds extreme?
Well, some say I was extreme when I said Republicans considered women as farm animals....and now a Republican publically compared women to pigs and cows......
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:15 AM
 
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1. "'Forcible Rape' Language Remains In Bill To Restrict Abortion Funding," The Huffington Post, February 9, 2011
'Forcible Rape' Language Remains In Bill To Restrict Abortion Funding

"Extreme Abortion Coverage Ban Introduced," Center for American Progress, January 20, 2011
Extreme Abortion Coverage Ban Introduced
The article reports on the type of rape referenced in a bill. That's hardly "redefining rape". This one is simply a blatant lie.

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2. "Georgia State Lawmaker Seeks To Redefine Rape Victims As 'Accusers,'" The Huffington Post, February 4, 2011
Georgia State Lawmaker Seeks To Redefine Rape Victims As 'Accusers'
This is only partly true. They leave out the fact that this applies only to circumstances where nobody has been convicted of the crime. See the Duke lacrosse scandal for why.

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3. "South Dakota bill would legalize killing abortion doctors," Salon, February 15, 2011
South Dakota bill would legalize killing abortion doctors - Abortion - Salon.com
As per claim #1 this is simply an out-and-out lie. From ABC News:

Reached by ABC News, Jensen called this interpretation of his bill, which passed out of committee on a nine-to-three party-line vote, "absurd."
"This has nothing to do with abortion. They didn't understand the argument," he said. "It is a self-defense bill; that's purely and simply what it is."
Jensen said that because abortion is legal, the murder of an abortion doctor would plainly be against the law.


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4. "House GOP Proposes Cuts to Scores of Sacred Cows," National Journal, February 9, 2011
House GOP Proposes Cuts to Scores of Sacred Cows - Humberto Sanchez - NationalJournal.com
Another half-truth. Yes they are planning to cut programs to women. They are also planning to cut programs to men. And to Amtrak, the FBI, NASA -- even to agriculture. Is there a Republican War on Turnips?

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5. "New GOP Bill Would Allow Hospitals To Let Women Die Instead Of Having An Abortion," Talking Points Memo, February 4, 2011
New GOP Bill Would Allow Hospitals To Let Women Die Instead Of Having An Abortion | TPMDC
Halfway through the list and this is the first actual honest one. That is of course relative to the previous ones which were factually incorrect. Whether or not it is intellectually honest to call this a "war on women" is debatable.

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6. "Republican Officials Cut Head Start Funding, Saying Women Should be Married and Home with Kids," Think Progress, February 16, 2011
Republican Officials Cut Head Start Funding, Saying Women Should Be Married And Home With Kids | ThinkProgress
Back to outright lies. Here are the quotes in question. Notice that neither one of them says what women "should" do:
COMMISSIONER C. PAUL SMITH (R): I think its very significant that we did make this marriage week announcement today, because that is the best long-term way to help our children, as marriage is strengthened in our community. As many of you know, I had a lot of kids, and my wife stayed home, at significant sacrifice, during those early years, because she knew she had to be with those kids at that critical age. I know everybody isn’t able to survive doing that, but clearly, as we can strengthen marriage we can decrease the children that we have to reach.
COMMISSIONER KIRBY DELAUTER (R): My wife, college educated, could go out and get a very good job. She gave that up for 18 years so she could stay home with our kids, we had to give up a lot to do that. I agree again with Commissioner Smith, you know, the marriage thing is very important. I mean, education of your kids starts at home, okay? I never relied on anyone else to guarantee the education of my kids.
Both express their approval that their wives stayed home with the kids but say absolutely nothing about women in general. In fact, one of the quotes specifically acknowledges that not all families can do that.

This is a repeat of #4

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8. "House GOP spending cuts will devastate women, families and economy," The Hill, February 16, 2011
House GOP spending cuts will devastate women, families and economy - The Hill's Congress Blog
This is a repeat of #4

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9. "House passes measure stripping Planned Parenthood funding," MSNBC, February 18,2011
First Read - House passes measure stripping Planned Parenthood funding

"GOP Spending Plan: X-ing Out Title X Family Planning Funds," Wall Street Journal, February 9, 2011
GOP Spending Plan: X-ing Out Title X Family Planning Funds - Washington Wire - WSJ
The right to get an abortion does not translate to having that abortion paid for with taxpayer dollars.

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10. Ibid.

"Birth Control for Horses, Not for Women," Blog for Choice, February 17, 2011
Blog for Choice | Birth Control for Horses, Not for Women
Women can go to Walmart and buy contraceptives. Horses can't.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:48 AM
 
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Here is a list of recent Republican tactics on their war against women!

1) trying to redefine rape

2) change the legal term for victims of rape, stalking, and domestic violence to "accuser."

3) make it legal to murder a doctor who provides abortion care. (Yep, for real.)

4) cut nearly a billion dollars of food and other aid to low-income pregnant women, mothers, babies, and kids.

5) let hospitals allow a woman to die rather than perform an abortion necessary to save her life.

6) Women should really be home with the kids, not out working.

7) cut all federal funding from Planned Parenthood health centers,

8) eliminate all funds for the only federal family planning program.

MoveOn.org Political Action: Top 10 Shocking Attacks from the GOP's War on Women

9) and the most recent, a Republican submitted a bill that would require a woman whose fetus died in the womb, to carry it until natural labor ensues which can endanger the life of the mother not to mention the psychological consequences.


Seems that the GOP is targeting women lately.
Well I get deleted being off topic but 100 % right in my post when I say Obama targets both women and men with his appointment of JOHN HOLDREN.

Burka's will be the least of your problems if old Johnny boy has his way with his forced sterilizations and abortions,the number of children you are allowed to have,forced relocations and non human exclusion zones.
You need to read his books and who Obama is surrounding himself with.

I dare to have this deleted it will only prove your bias to the truth and it isn't any crazier than the OP because it is HOLDRENS own written words not mindless fantasy.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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It's going to be hard to walk in a Burka with an aspirin between your knees.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:18 AM
 
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The article reports on the type of rape referenced in a bill. That's hardly "redefining rape". This one is simply a blatant lie.



This is only partly true. They leave out the fact that this applies only to circumstances where nobody has been convicted of the crime. See the Duke lacrosse scandal for why.



As per claim #1 this is simply an out-and-out lie. From ABC News:

Reached by ABC News, Jensen called this interpretation of his bill, which passed out of committee on a nine-to-three party-line vote, "absurd."
"This has nothing to do with abortion. They didn't understand the argument," he said. "It is a self-defense bill; that's purely and simply what it is."
Jensen said that because abortion is legal, the murder of an abortion doctor would plainly be against the law.




Another half-truth. Yes they are planning to cut programs to women. They are also planning to cut programs to men. And to Amtrak, the FBI, NASA -- even to agriculture. Is there a Republican War on Turnips?



Halfway through the list and this is the first actual honest one. That is of course relative to the previous ones which were factually incorrect. Whether or not it is intellectually honest to call this a "war on women" is debatable.



Back to outright lies. Here are the quotes in question. Notice that neither one of them says what women "should" do:
COMMISSIONER C. PAUL SMITH (R): I think its very significant that we did make this marriage week announcement today, because that is the best long-term way to help our children, as marriage is strengthened in our community. As many of you know, I had a lot of kids, and my wife stayed home, at significant sacrifice, during those early years, because she knew she had to be with those kids at that critical age. I know everybody isn’t able to survive doing that, but clearly, as we can strengthen marriage we can decrease the children that we have to reach.
COMMISSIONER KIRBY DELAUTER (R): My wife, college educated, could go out and get a very good job. She gave that up for 18 years so she could stay home with our kids, we had to give up a lot to do that. I agree again with Commissioner Smith, you know, the marriage thing is very important. I mean, education of your kids starts at home, okay? I never relied on anyone else to guarantee the education of my kids.
Both express their approval that their wives stayed home with the kids but say absolutely nothing about women in general. In fact, one of the quotes specifically acknowledges that not all families can do that.



This is a repeat of #4



This is a repeat of #4



The right to get an abortion does not translate to having that abortion paid for with taxpayer dollars.



Women can go to Walmart and buy contraceptives. Horses can't.
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3. "South Dakota bill would legalize killing abortion doctors," Salon, February 15, 2011
South Dakota bill would legalize killing abortion doctors - Abortion - Salon.com
As per claim #1 this is simply an out-and-out lie. From ABC News:

Reached by ABC News, Jensen called this interpretation of his bill, which passed out of committee on a nine-to-three party-line vote, "absurd."
"This has nothing to do with abortion. They didn't understand the argument," he said. "It is a self-defense bill; that's purely and simply what it is."
Jensen said that because abortion is legal, the murder of an abortion doctor would plainly be against the law. """""



So, if abortion were illegal, murdering abortion doctors is OK by Jensen!
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Kkaos2 View Post
The article reports on the type of rape referenced in a bill. That's hardly "redefining rape". This one is simply a blatant lie.



This is only partly true. They leave out the fact that this applies only to circumstances where nobody has been convicted of the crime. See the Duke lacrosse scandal for why.



As per claim #1 this is simply an out-and-out lie. From ABC News:

Reached by ABC News, Jensen called this interpretation of his bill, which passed out of committee on a nine-to-three party-line vote, "absurd."
"This has nothing to do with abortion. They didn't understand the argument," he said. "It is a self-defense bill; that's purely and simply what it is."
Jensen said that because abortion is legal, the murder of an abortion doctor would plainly be against the law.




Another half-truth. Yes they are planning to cut programs to women. They are also planning to cut programs to men. And to Amtrak, the FBI, NASA -- even to agriculture. Is there a Republican War on Turnips?



Halfway through the list and this is the first actual honest one. That is of course relative to the previous ones which were factually incorrect. Whether or not it is intellectually honest to call this a "war on women" is debatable.



Back to outright lies. Here are the quotes in question. Notice that neither one of them says what women "should" do:
COMMISSIONER C. PAUL SMITH (R): I think its very significant that we did make this marriage week announcement today, because that is the best long-term way to help our children, as marriage is strengthened in our community. As many of you know, I had a lot of kids, and my wife stayed home, at significant sacrifice, during those early years, because she knew she had to be with those kids at that critical age. I know everybody isn’t able to survive doing that, but clearly, as we can strengthen marriage we can decrease the children that we have to reach.
COMMISSIONER KIRBY DELAUTER (R): My wife, college educated, could go out and get a very good job. She gave that up for 18 years so she could stay home with our kids, we had to give up a lot to do that. I agree again with Commissioner Smith, you know, the marriage thing is very important. I mean, education of your kids starts at home, okay? I never relied on anyone else to guarantee the education of my kids.
Both express their approval that their wives stayed home with the kids but say absolutely nothing about women in general. In fact, one of the quotes specifically acknowledges that not all families can do that.



This is a repeat of #4



This is a repeat of #4



The right to get an abortion does not translate to having that abortion paid for with taxpayer dollars.



Women can go to Walmart and buy contraceptives. Horses can't.
Thanks for your examples of the outright lies and exaggerations by the left but this is nothing new for them.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:30 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Here is a list of recent Republican tactics on their war against women!
This is one of the most irresponsible posts I have ever seen here on C-D!

Since you linked to MoveOn.org, that tells us something about you.

If women are going to be required to wear a burqa, it will be because liberals failed to protect our country from the Islamization of America (In case you didn't know, a burqa is a Muslim garment not Christian).

Liberals, in order to be so "inclusive" and not wanting to "offend" anyone, are allowing even Sharia Law in our courts (Elena Kagan favors it, as does Sonia Sotomayor).

In case you didn't know it, under Sharia Law (supported by the two Supreme Court Justices mentioned), a womans word is only worth 1/4 of a mans.

Your post also suggest that you have no clue what Christianity teaches, which is diametrically opposed to the teachings of Islam.

You'd better check your premise.
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