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Instead of perpetuating your lies, go back to page one of this thread and look at who the first poster was to bring up gun control laws, k?
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Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost
So, what "valid" point did you make? That absent gun regulations, these deaths wouldn't have happened?
No, and I think I already address that asinine question once already. Do you have dementia or short term memory loss issues?
Here, I'll make it easy for you. Here are my previous responses:
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That's what you got out of my reply?? Wow. Ok, no. I'm simply stating that continuing to punish the law abiding citizens who wish to legally purchase and carry guns has NO effect on the crime rate whatsoever, good or bad. I never suggested that six year olds or even teens for that matter be allowed to pack heat. Don't be ridiculous by taking your argument to the extremes.
You suggested that one could simply walk next door and purchase a firearm instantaneously. I proved you wrong. What's your point? I don't care what the laws are in your state, this is Illinois we are talking about and specifically, Chicago.
You do realize there is no major statistical change in crime reduction with harsher gun laws right?
What effect could tough gun laws have on a city that already had thousands of guns in the wrong hands when the laws were enacted? Does a city have border checkpoints for searching vehicles as they enter?
Didn't you? I believe my very first response quotes your post.
And you would be wrong, but you keep right on lying to cover up your ineptitude.
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Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost
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Originally Posted by waterboy7375 Good thing carrying guns is against the law there. Seems to be working like a charm.
Guns always seem to work like a charm... if this is the kind of "charm" one is looking for.
My username is not waterboy7375.
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Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost
Operating on that ground may be your only escape. Why did you bring gun laws into this thread? Explain THAT.
Ha, escape from what? I'm not the one trying to duck and dodge here. Why do you continue to perpetrate outright lies? Is it because you have NO other point to make other than to lie, deflect, dodge?
And you would be wrong, but you keep right on lying to cover up your ineptitude.
My username is not waterboy7375.
Ha, escape from what? I'm not the one trying to duck and dodge here. Why do you continue to perpetrate outright lies? Is it because you have NO other point to make other than to lie, deflect, dodge?
What's the difference between waterboy7375 and you? Certainly not when you posted this (and it was a response to my post which wasn't to you).
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Originally Posted by whatyousay
You're right, we should continue to punish the law abiding citizens because, well, I don't know why... maybe you can explain the thought process behind that?
Show me a link where someone has said they're a fan or they respect him for what he did. And if they did then I'll stand with you in condemning them. All I've seen so far is people saying let the justice system do its job.
This is sad.
10 people dead and about 40 others injured.
It is a tragedy when some one is dies before their time.
You know what is sadder?
Using their deaths to push an agenda against people seeking justice for the shooting of an unarmed teenager. I am pretty sure that all of these shootings in Chicago are being treated as homicides and assaults with a deadly weapon. Trayvon's death is being treated as a justified killing. I am sure that most of the people in hear know the actual difference when people are expressing their outrage over the situations. However, the manor in which this was brought up leads me to think that the OP does not really care about the plight of the people that were gunned down in Chicago but was using it as tool for his agenda to distract people from the killing of that teen in Florida. For the life of me, I can't understand why people would go to such lengths to discredit someone else's tragedy.
I don't think it's meant to distract, it's meant to point out the sad sad fact that a case like Trayvon's is held up as this enormous racist problem while everyone ignores the elephant in the room which is the dozens of other trayvons shot dead in mostly urban areas.
80% of Chicago's shootings are gang related.
Chicago has had a long standing policy of turning a blind eye if gang members keep the killing to other gang members. Last year the police cracked down on one gang for accidentally shooting 2 young girls. It's been like that for decades, that is how Chi-town operates.
I think that with the attention given to the poor kid in Florida it's a perfect time to address ALL of the violence that young black males like him face. It's just a whole lot less comfortable discussion when you move from a good kid getting shot for nothing to confronting the uglier and vastly more common incidents surrounding poverty, drugs and gang violence.
Trayvon's case has gotten the attention it needed and I'm hopeful that justice will be served there.
Now can we talk about the elephant in the room? Or do we just sweep it under the rug and ignore it since black gang-bangers getting shot is just the way things are and don't make us feel morally outraged?
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