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Old 03-22-2012, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I know U.S. history and the Constitution probably better than you do.
Maybe you do, maybe you don't. But of the two of us, you are the only one advocating its military overthrow.

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Originally Posted by alphamale
The founders would be disgusted by the way that their document has been abused.

They would be all for my idea.
The assertion that the Founders would be in favor of a military coup is insane. There is no other appropriate word.

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Who stops a POTUS when he breaks his oath?
Odd... I thought you just said you knew that Constitution? Because it tells you right in Article 1.

The Congress does.

 
Old 03-22-2012, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Obama and the radical liberals are the ones claiming the constitution is irelivant and feel they are not bound by it.
Oh? Please link me to where the president has ever said "the Constitution is irrelevant" or that he "is not bound by it."

I'll wait.
 
Old 03-22-2012, 08:43 AM
 
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Oh? Please link me to where the president has ever said "the Constitution is irrelevant" or that he "is not bound by it."

I'll wait.
Actions speak louder than words ... Is there not an impeachment bill now in congress ... Use of Military without congress approval ...
 
Old 03-22-2012, 08:47 AM
 
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I do want Marines who will refuse to follow orders that violate the Constitution and international law. But I absolutely do not want Marines or military personnel of any kind who refuse to follow the chain of command merely because they disagree with a sitting president's general policies -- even if it were Bush, even if it were Santorum (vomits in mouth). As far as I am concerned as a taxpayer, they can talk about it to some degree, but if they incite others to take action against the chain of command and if they violate it themselves, they should be court martialed and imprisoned.

I don't know whether the magazine 'teaser' is true, but if it is indeed true that high brass isn't doing anything about the increasingly outspoken marines, then that might explain why incidents like Quran burnings, pissing on dead Afghans, and crimes against humanity are occurring in the U.S. military and why they don't seem to be happening as much in the British military. Maybe there's an increasing break down in the overall command and control over the American military that is taking place all up and down the chain of command. That, my friends, is dangerous...regardless of who's in power.

Update: looks like Stein might be dismissed, which is welcome and probably the least controversial way to deal with him. Good for taking a stand against a f*cking 'tard with a firearm. Not the kind of idiot we need in Afghanistan right now, especially in light of all that's happened over there. In all fairness, though, I would say that it's understandable to a degree why soldiers would be increasingly tempted to be more outspoken against any president right now. Doing multiple tours over there when it's clear that there's not going to be a satisfactory outcome has to be demoralizing. The sooner we can extricate ourselves from this state of protracted war, the better. We need to be a peacetime country again.
 
Old 03-22-2012, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Oh? Please link me to where the president has ever said "the Constitution is irrelevant" or that he "is not bound by it."

I'll wait.
We'll be waiting for quite awhile.
I'll make snacks.
 
Old 03-22-2012, 08:49 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That's okay. We have the UCMJ to cover that:

Article 92—Failure to obey order or regulation

“Any person subject to this chapter who—
  • (1) violates or fails to obey any lawful general order or regulation;
    (2) having knowledge of any other lawful order issued by a member of the armed forces, which it is his duty to obey, fails to obey the order; or
    (3) is derelict in the performance of his duties; shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”



The key word you are looking right over to set the agenda, is lawful.
Nice try at trolling.
 
Old 03-22-2012, 08:50 AM
 
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We'll be waiting for quite awhile.
I'll make snacks.

OBAMA SAYS CONSTITUTION DEEP FLAW CONTINUES TODAY - YouTube
 
Old 03-22-2012, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Yes, a youtube vid.
Classic.
 
Old 03-22-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Actions speak louder than words ... Is there not an impeachment bill now in congress ... Use of Military without congress approval ...
Actually... no. There is not.

 
Old 03-22-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Yes, a youtube vid.
Classic.


The new social media, that doesn't hold back.

No wonder the fed wants to restrict and regulate the internet and e-mail.
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