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Old 03-27-2012, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Is this corporation conservative? Liberal? truly non partisan in their polling and research? anybody ever heard of them??

Opinion Research & Polling by Wenzel Strategies
They are publishers of right-wing propaganda.

WorldNetDaily's Ethically Challenged Pollster | ConWebWatch

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Old 03-27-2012, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The numbers go up and down, on eligibility and have been skewed at times by how the poll question was worded, apparently because it can vary widely.

For Libs...a liberal source back in 2010....July I think it was and KITV reported it, and they're from BO's old stomping ground even if he wasn't born there.

SIXTY percent in mid-2010....reported from libs, hmm.

CNN poll on Obama: 6 of 10 doubt U.S. birth story - KLTV.com-Tyler, Longview, Jacksonville, Texas |
That poll actually says that 71% believed Obama was definitely or probably born in the United States.
 
Old 03-27-2012, 03:48 PM
 
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They are publisher's of polling and research data. Do they have integrity, or not?

No? they're not any better than MSNBC or the groups they choose to utilize?
Thanks for your reply. I'll do my research on them if and when I get the time.
 
Old 03-27-2012, 03:54 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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I have to laugh at the idea that a poll of strangers are considered by some the determinate factor in deciding where a person was born. Good grief. You could have a poll saying that 100% of those polled did not believe I was born in Wisconsin and it wouldn't change the FACT that I WAS born in Wisconsin. Likewise, no matter how many simple minded people doubt Obama's place of birth to be Hawaii that certainly doesn't magically change the FACT that he WAS born in Hawaii. You know what they say about opinions.......
 
Old 03-27-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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I have to laugh at the idea that a poll of strangers are considered by some the determinate factor in deciding where a person was born. Good grief. You could have a poll saying that 100% of those polled did not believe I was born in Wisconsin and it wouldn't change the FACT that I WAS born in Wisconsin. Likewise, no matter how many simple minded people doubt Obama's place of birth to be Hawaii that certainly doesn't magically change the FACT that he WAS born in Hawaii. You know what they say about opinions.......
What you are laughing at is not what millions of us value polls for. Of course others do not "reality make."

Libs on a forum, conservatives on same forum do not create even their/our own realities.

That said...polls have value because we can use them to prove to each other that many others besides ourselves share our suspicions, or lack of.

That so (SIXTY percent) many in our citizenry, oh back in mid-2010 had doubts about the Communist president's eligibility was a huge story. It showed that way, too many of us found suspect what was worthy of that suspicion, and he still is.
 
Old 03-27-2012, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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They are publisher's of polling and research data. Do they have integrity, or not?

No? they're not any better than MSNBC or the groups they choose to utilize?
Thanks for your reply. I'll do my research on them if and when I get the time.
DUH, no, suck to find out that you're being lied to by your own people, doesn't it?
 
Old 03-27-2012, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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They are publisher's of polling and research data. Do they have integrity, or not?
They have no integrity. They are propagandists. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing else.
 
Old 03-27-2012, 04:36 PM
 
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They have no integrity. They are propagandists. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing else.
Unlike yourself. Or are you an O'bama apologist?

Still trying to figure out what History you are writing....
 
Old 03-27-2012, 04:36 PM
 
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They have no integrity. They are propagandists. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing else.
Perhaps they don't, or perhaps they do. Thanks for your input. I'll find out for myself when I can.

Whew! glad they weren't the authors of the findings that CBS reported on, then. Surely since it was

CBS that reported that SIXTY percent of americans doubted the Communist-in-Chief's eligibility, I can believe THAT report, right?
 
Old 03-27-2012, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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CBS that reported that SIXTY percent of americans doubted the Communist-in-Chief's eligibility, I can believe THAT report, right?
No. CBS did not report that. It reported that 71% of Americans believed that Obama was either definitely or probably born in the United states.

You should look at the actual poll rather than listen to Birther spin.
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