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Who knows if it actually happened either. At first they said that his nose was broken but he did not go to the hospital nor did the police take pictures. BTW, Who in the hell walks around with a broken nose and not get it looked at?
People can have a broken nose and not even know it's broken.
A question for you or anyone--- Has the SPD admitted they didn't take pictures of Zimmerman after the shooting ? Though there's no mention of photos in the police report, we've only seen a Partial report.
People can have a broken nose and not even know it's broken.
A question for you or anyone--- Has the SPD admitted they didn't take pictures of Zimmerman after the shooting ? Though there's no mention of photos in the police report, we've only seen a Partial report.
Yes, but he knows it now. Where's the medical report for treatment?
1. Zimmerman was not a member of any official Neighborhood Watch group.
2. Zimmerman was armed, which is not sanctioned by national NW groups.
3. Zimmerman had a gun, despite having assaulted a police officer, and had domestic violence
charges.
4. Shortly after 7 p.m., Trayvon Martin left the home of his father's SO and went to a convenience
store to buy Skittles and Arizona Iced Tea.
5. Martin was wearing a hoodie with the hood up, because it was raining.
6. Zimmerman saw Martin walking back and called 911 to report a "suspicious person" who "looked
like there was something wrong" with him.
7. Martin was talking to his girlfriend on his cell phone; when Zimmerman stated that Martin had "his
hands in his waistband," it's likely that his phone was clipped to his pants and he was using ear
buds to talk.
8. Zimmerman was asked by 911 if he was following Martin; after replying affirmatively, the 911
dispatcher said, "We don't need you to do that."
9. Despite that advice and knowing that police were en route, Zimmerman continued to follow
Martin.
10. Martin asked Zimmerman why he was following him; after this exchange a confrontation
occurred.
11. On the 911 tapes, a voice is heard screaming for help; some witnesses have said it was Martin,
while Zimmerman says that it was him crying for help.
12. After a scuffle Martin was shot, allegedly in the chest.
13. Police arrived shortly after this point; they didn't cordon off the crime scene and process it.
14. One witness was "corrected" by a PO when she made a statement.
15. Zimmerman was taken into custody, but not tested for drugs or alcohol.
16. The police report identifies Zimmerman as white.
17. Zimmerman's clothes were collected and held as evidence.
18. The police report identifies Martin, including his name, age, d.o.b., height and weight.
19. Martin's body was held for 3 days as a "John Doe," although he'd clearly been identified.
20. Martin's cell phone was not used to identify the last calls.
21. Martin's body was tested for drugs and alcohol.
22. The police report lists Martin's cause of death as "homicide," and "unnecessary force."
23. Zimmerman was released after making a statement.
24. Martin's family had to press to get answers from the PD; no officer or police chaplain visited
them to tell them of their son's death.
25. On 911 call #7, the caller clearly states that it's "a young boy" dead on the ground.
26. Zimmerman allegedly had a broken nose, yet refused medical treatment.
27. It remains unclear whether Zimmerman's wounds were photographed or not.
28. Although the police report stated that Martin's cause of death was given as "homicide," the DA
determined that there was no cause to detain him.
29. Zimmerman has made no statement expressing regret at Martin's death.
30. Anyone who finds these circumstances puzzling and asks for more information is labeled as
"a lynch mob."
31. The President makes a benign statement extending symapthy for Martin's family and says that
Trayvon could have been "his son." Anyone could say the same in light of the cause of death.
32. The incident becomes a racial and political flashpoint; because the handling of the incident is
seen by many as inadequate and tensions are rising, the case is turned over to higher
authorities.
33. White racists seize the opportunity to disseminate false information and fake photos of Martin;
the word "thug" is used freely to describe Martin. Despite the info in the police report,
Zimmerman becomes "hispanic."
34. Geraldo Rivera blames the hoodie, making millions of Americans "thugs."
35. Any leaders in the Black community who call for justice are labeled "race baiters" and "hate
mongers."
36. Those calling for further investigation include members of every ethnicity.
37. There is no reasonable explanation for Zimmerman's leaving his vehicle and following Martin.
38. Women, particularly mothers, tend to believe that Martin's death was unnecessary.
39. Some men of ethnicities other than Black tend to hypothesize that Martin was a thug and the
aggressor.
40. Witness statements, the autopsy report and forensic evidence is being held for revue; if
Zimmerman is charged and found guilty, his defenders will cry "foul."
41. The co-sponsors of the SYG legislation have stated that Zimmerman's actions aren't covered
under their bill.
42. The national debate over what is reasonable in terms of self-defense is unresolved but hotly
debated.
43. Because the Sanford PD accepted Zimmerman's account without question, vital evidence was
lost.
44. The one officer who thought Zimmerman should be tried was overruled by the D.A.
45. Any suggestion that Zimmerman should not have owned a gun is taken as an assault on the
Second Amendment.
46. Judge Judy would make short work of Zimmerman: "If you thought he was a criminal, why did
you leave your vehicle and follow him? It doesn't make sense, sir."
47. Some insist, all evidence to the contrary, that there is no racism in America.
48. We may never know what may have happened had Zimmerman been charged w/manslaughter.
49. People deflect from Zimmerman's responsibility by citing unrelated crimes and cases.
50. While we argue, young people continue to die.
I dunno why all the Trayvon supporters are using a 5-year old picture of him. Gee could it be they don't want us to know that he just was a typical street thug?
Yes, but he knows it now. Where's the medical report for treatment?
The point is, having a broken nose doesn't = immediate trip to ER.
I assume the SFD has records of the treatment that night and a doctor or hospital has more records.
Was he severely beaten, his head pounded on the ground ? I'd probably have taken a trip to ER to make sure no concussion, no internal injury, etc.; I'm leery of just how beaten gz was.
You can't help with my question ? --- Has the SPD admitted they didn't take pictures of Zimmerman after the shooting ? Though there's no mention of photos in the police report, we've only seen a Partial report
1. Zimmerman was not a member of any official Neighborhood Watch group.
2. Zimmerman was armed, which is not sanctioned by national NW groups.
3. Zimmerman had a gun, despite having assaulted a police officer, and had domestic violence
charges.
4. Shortly after 7 p.m., Trayvon Martin left the home of his father's SO and went to a convenience
store to buy Skittles and Arizona Iced Tea.
5. Martin was wearing a hoodie with the hood up, because it was raining.
6. Zimmerman saw Martin walking back and called 911 to report a "suspicious person" who "looked
like there was something wrong" with him.
7. Martin was talking to his girlfriend on his cell phone; when Zimmerman stated that Martin had "his
hands in his waistband," it's likely that his phone was clipped to his pants and he was using ear
buds to talk.
8. Zimmerman was asked by 911 if he was following Martin; after replying affirmatively, the 911
dispatcher said, "We don't need you to do that."
9. Despite that advice and knowing that police were en route, Zimmerman continued to follow
Martin.
10. Martin asked Zimmerman why he was following him; after this exchange a confrontation
occurred.
11. On the 911 tapes, a voice is heard screaming for help; some witnesses have said it was Martin,
while Zimmerman says that it was him crying for help.
12. After a scuffle Martin was shot, allegedly in the chest.
13. Police arrived shortly after this point; they didn't cordon off the crime scene and process it.
14. One witness was "corrected" by a PO when she made a statement.
15. Zimmerman was taken into custody, but not tested for drugs or alcohol.
16. The police report identifies Zimmerman as white.
17. Zimmerman's clothes were collected and held as evidence.
18. The police report identifies Martin, including his name, age, d.o.b., height and weight.
19. Martin's body was held for 3 days as a "John Doe," although he'd clearly been identified.
20. Martin's cell phone was not used to identify the last calls.
21. Martin's body was tested for drugs and alcohol.
22. The police report lists Martin's cause of death as "homicide," and "unnecessary force."
23. Zimmerman was released after making a statement.
24. Martin's family had to press to get answers from the PD; no officer or police chaplain visited
them to tell them of their son's death.
25. On 911 call #7, the caller clearly states that it's "a young boy" dead on the ground.
26. Zimmerman allegedly had a broken nose, yet refused medical treatment.
27. It remains unclear whether Zimmerman's wounds were photographed or not.
28. Although the police report stated that Martin's cause of death was given as "homicide," the DA
determined that there was no cause to detain him.
29. Zimmerman has made no statement expressing regret at Martin's death.
30. Anyone who finds these circumstances puzzling and asks for more information is labeled as
"a lynch mob."
31. The President makes a benign statement extending symapthy for Martin's family and says that
Trayvon could have been "his son." Anyone could say the same in light of the cause of death.
32. The incident becomes a racial and political flashpoint; because the handling of the incident is
seen by many as inadequate and tensions are rising, the case is turned over to higher
authorities.
33. White racists seize the opportunity to disseminate false information and fake photos of Martin;
the word "thug" is used freely to describe Martin. Despite the info in the police report,
Zimmerman becomes "hispanic."
34. Geraldo Rivera blames the hoodie, making millions of Americans "thugs."
35. Any leaders in the Black community who call for justice are labeled "race baiters" and "hate
mongers."
36. Those calling for further investigation include members of every ethnicity.
37. There is no reasonable explanation for Zimmerman's leaving his vehicle and following Martin.
38. Women, particularly mothers, tend to believe that Martin's death was unnecessary.
39. Some men of ethnicities other than Black tend to hypothesize that Martin was a thug and the
aggressor.
40. Witness statements, the autopsy report and forensic evidence is being held for revue; if
Zimmerman is charged and found guilty, his defenders will cry "foul."
41. The co-sponsors of the SYG legislation have stated that Zimmerman's actions aren't covered
under their bill.
42. The national debate over what is reasonable in terms of self-defense is unresolved but hotly
debated.
43. Because the Sanford PD accepted Zimmerman's account without question, vital evidence was
lost.
44. The one officer who thought Zimmerman should be tried was overruled by the D.A.
45. Any suggestion that Zimmerman should not have owned a gun is taken as an assault on the
Second Amendment.
46. Judge Judy would make short work of Zimmerman: "If you thought he was a criminal, why did
you leave your vehicle and follow him? It doesn't make sense, sir."
47. Some insist, all evidence to the contrary, that there is no racism in America.
48. We may never know what may have happened had Zimmerman been charged w/manslaughter.
49. People deflect from Zimmerman's responsibility by citing unrelated crimes and cases.
50. While we argue, young people continue to die.
there is a grand jury handling this.
they will hear all of your presented "evidence" and more, including all the tapes and eyewitnesses.
people are killed all the time-and the wheels of justice often grind slow, and sometimes don't grind at all-and that has nothing to do with racism.
it crosses all racial borders.
of course, we have a president who has now chosen to comment on 2 specific cases to stir it up-both of which involve black people, (hosting a beer summit on one of them)-- even though we have countless crimes every day in america, and broken-hearted families across america.
i will say that i don't see the point of discussing trayvon's history at all in relation to this case, because zimmerman had no idea who he was and therefore trayvon's history would have meant nothing to him and nothing to the incident.
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There were three separate suspensions within a year. The baggie was just one instance. He was also caught with 12 pieces of jewelry that were not his as well as a screwdriver in his backpack with the jewelry. This was the incident where he was suspended for graffiti.
And I suppose that Zimmerman was completely aware of each of these suspensions, right?
Quite frankly, I don't care if TM was a weedhead with a mouth full of gold teeth, tattoos covering every inch of his body, and a poor student with a bad attitude. The evidence that I've heard so far tells me that he was murdered for no good reason. Zimmerman claims that it was out of self-defense, when his victim was armed with nothing but iced tea and a bag of Skittles (good gosh, what a monster!).
No one needs to manipulate the facts of this case. It seems though that the media-hounds always have to find one case to sensationalize, keep it out there, and they know which ones to go after.
Point being a young man is dead, and another most likely will not get a fair trial, no matter his guilt or his being innocent., which without a trial, none of us knows for sure.
Looking at the two of them, Zimmerman, does not look like someone who is scared off easily. And sorry in my opinion does not look WHITE, but hispanic, like my many freinds who are from mexico, but now citizens.
And no matter what you think, Zimmerman was told not to follow Martin, but no he did not listen, took it upon himself, to handle things in his own way, and we know which way this was.
This case does not need to be manipulated, thus far being someone is dead, and someone responsible for this.
And the media sometimes only portrays certain facts, witholding any pertinent facts, for a reason. Newstory.
Sigh. For the N'th time this story is only in the headlines because of the police response (of lack thereof), not because of the shooting itself.
Yes, dozens of people get shot like this kid everyday. But usually the police arrest and charge someone.
What ever happened to "let the police handle it". No wonder no one gets involved when they see anything suspicious anymore. People don't even want to call the police when they see a crime being committed so they won't get caught up in the turmoil/mess. I don't blame them.
They are trying to make out that Zimmerman is a wacko because he made 40 or 60 reports to the police about a suspicious character in the neighborhood. Hey, the guy was a neighborhood watch captain, that is their job.
My hubby was in the neighborhood watch but we lived in a peaceful place and the most that happened were teens trashing things on the weekend. If we had lived in a bad area I would have told my hubby not to volunteer for anything.
IMO the police have enough evidence to exonerate Zimmerman from any wrong doing. After this is over though they will HAVE to arrest him just to keep people from rioting and killing innocent people that are caught in between and sparring property from being damaged in the millions.
Although, that may not stop the rioting either. The media need to stop rebel rousing for sure. Sharpten and Jackson live for these things.
As I followed this case its been a mix of tears and frustration. Gosh I just hate guns in generanl but at times they suposedly have their place,but not in this case. Trayvon changed a lot since the earlier teen photo with the addition of tattoes,gold teeth and the suggestion he got immersed in gangsta-like models including friends who emulated West Coast dogs. I see this as a neighborhood watch gone too zelaously over the edge. What frustrates me also is his suspension in Miami (being in an unauthorized area) What? Since when do you get a 10 day suspension for what should have been a detention? Had that occured he would be alive !! As for Zimmerman I believe he has a side of a story that is stil vague and needs to be aired . God bless Trayvons parents and family as they are so distraught as we all are . God take care of Trayvon ...R.I.P.
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