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View Poll Results: Should able people who are able to work but refuse to receive any support from the government?
Yes 5 4.50%
No 100 90.09%
Undecided 6 5.41%
Voters: 111. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-27-2012, 03:40 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Well there's always a way out of working if you really put your mind to it.

Man Saws Off, Cooks Own Foot to Avoid Work
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Old 03-27-2012, 03:42 PM
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Location: Suburban Dallas
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I work to earn money. Why do I need anything from our government?


If our poll is any indication, the answer is a resounding NO.
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:33 PM
 
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It's called prison.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:29 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Should able-bodied, able-minded people who do not have any other obligations and nonetheless refuse to work be entitled to a minimal standard of living, by government support if necessary?
Nope. I see it all the time. It burns me up.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:34 AM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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Why are people only looking for jobs in their area?
Um, maybe cause it's too hard tot move somewhere else to find a job? (AKA income, family, education, etc...)


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Why haven't they saved up for a rainy day when they were working, and why aren't they spending a few hours/day in a library studying new skills?
Not everyone had the ability to save up and have it last. I was out of work for almost a year before and we zapped our savings pretty fast due to that. When you go from two incomes to one, it goes fast.

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Put them to work for the town. They can plant flowers, pick up trash, paint public buildings, pull weeds on public property, something to improve the quality if life for all and give them something to do.
In our area, that work is for the inmates of the jail. They go out on road crews everyday to clean up and do outside work. You see them all the time on the side of the road mowing, or picking up trash, and in the parks downtown planting and weeding.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Interesting that the "no" votes are at 100%.

At least someone here believes that all people, regardless of their will to work, deserve shelter and food?

Deserve? Why would anyone automatically deserve ammenities? We must all earn our keep in this life.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Austin
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What about those that try to find a job, but can't (either due to no jobs in their area, or not qualifications for the area, education, etc...)?

They can move. Go to where the jobs are. Branch out. Be willing to adjust.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Austin
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1) Maybe they don't have money and can't afford to move?

2) Maybe they're unskilled?

Victim drivel. Seriously, I have been pretty poor before, and I never, ever just sat down and said, "Oh well, I don't have any skills...Oh well, I don't have any money..."

There are options for everyone, but we have to care enough to look for them.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:48 AM
 
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Should able-bodied, able-minded people who do not have any other obligations and nonetheless refuse to work be entitled to a minimal standard of living, by government support if necessary?
The title should read "other people's money". The government has no money of their own.

And no, someone that can, but chooses not to work, should NOT get MY money.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Savings can disappear very quickly, even if you have quite a bit saved up and have no income to replenish it.

As for the library, you can 'learn' all you want, without proof of learning it (aka, a degree, certification etc.) then you really don't have a chance to prove it. I can go to the library and study helicopter mechanics all day long, but if I don't have the certification nobody is going to hire me as a mechanic.

I'm currently unemployed and I spend a large majority of the day learning new skills and updating my current ones so when the opportunity presents itself (this fall, hopefully) to get new certifications, I can go into the program fresh and ready to go.

I'm not saying it's impossible or that people shouldn't try, but it's not as easy as reading a few books and then *poof* you get a good job.
I don't believe there was anything referenced about it being "easy."
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