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Old 03-31-2012, 01:28 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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The "great uniter" has divided this country like never before socially.
What kind of cognitive reconstruction does it take to actually believe this?

At every turn, any effort Obama made was blocked by the Republicans. They did not negotiate, they filibustered at a record pace, held the nation hostage to their absurd demands-- harming our financial standing in the world in the process. They turned against their own ideas when Obama promoted them, while engaging in a series of whisper campaigns designed to undermine his presidency...

But Obama is the divisive one?

Really? This is what you believe? b
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:30 PM
 
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Yup so those Repub. dont want to remove the sub. from oil companies and will not increase Rev. all because of some pledge. The blind will vote Repub. because they cant see the damage done to our country by Con. Eco. theory. You need to be aware that the we will all be paying one way or another because of those Con. Eco. theories (increase in taxes, less services, lower SS, less medical, lose of value in Real Estate holding's, pension plans that have lost trillions).No repub. will be able to get away from the nightmare they created.
That bill was voted down in the senate which is controlled by the dems. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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What kind of cognitive reconstruction does it take to actually believe this?

At every turn, any effort Obama made was blocked by the Republicans. They did not negotiate, they filibustered at a record pace, held the nation hostage to their absurd demands-- harming our financial standing in the world in the process. They turned against their own ideas when Obama promoted them, while engaging in a series of whisper campaigns designed to undermine his presidency...

But Obama is the divisive one?

Really? This is what you believe? b
Really the dems just blocked his oil subsidy bill in the senate. I take it from your post that you're just not paying attention. Held the nation hostage? How so? Absurd demands like to stop spending money we don't have on nonsense? That is only absurd to a swooner.
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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Obama is just a Wall Street banker puppet.
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Old 04-03-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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The economy was doing great in spite of Clinton who had to be dragged to the alter of lower taxes and reduced spending. He had one-termer written all over him until Newt pulled his fat out of the fire.
'Going great in spite of Clinton'? Well, I guess GW fixed all of that didn't he?
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:27 AM
 
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this must be the most interesting recovery on record, considering that gas/oil usage has dropped off dramatically, as shown in the charts:

Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis

i guess we can have a recovery even without using energy, and able to keep fuel prices up too.

that's pretty amazing.
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Let's cut the baldfaced lies, ok? Obama had nothing to do with this recession. I am not pinning it on Bush either, at least singly. It was Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, probably Reagan, both houses of congress, stupid, corrupt banks, self-serving realtors and mortgage professionals, and greedy, stupid consumers that got us in this mess. Trying to pin it on Obama is just plain sleazy.

Given the hand he has been dealt, he has done pretty well, and we are in recovery.


Given the hand he was delt he could have done nothing at all and claimed credit for "fewer" lay-offs as the rate dropped over time and "more Americans working" after unemployment bottomed-out.

He could have done that, but he didn't do that.

Instead he p*ssed away a trillion borrowed dollars to stimulate the economy and sent deficits into the stratosphere.

He got everything he wanted and now he owns what he has done.
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:04 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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'Going great in spite of Clinton'? Well, I guess GW fixed all of that didn't he?




"Let's cut the baldfaced lies, ok? Obama had nothing to do with this recession. I am not pinning it on Bush either, at least singly. It was Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, probably Reagan, both houses of congress, stupid, corrupt banks, self-serving realtors and mortgage professionals, and greedy, stupid consumers that got us in this mess. Trying to pin it on Obama is just plain sleazy."



Sound familiar?
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Let's not get hung up on the definition of economic recovery or two quarters of growth. Look at the bigger picture and the direction Obama is taking our country. Not so rosy, is it?
That's a good point.

Another definition of recovery is restoration, in which case your economy must be restored to pre-recession levels.

That means 5% unemployment with >66.5% labor participation rate.

That will not happen for a very long time, if it ever happens at all.

Economically...

Mircea
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:06 PM
 
Location: southern california
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u gota admit impression management, 2nd to none. but he has done nothing different than bush, just better at it. one exception --- he by passed the american judicial system, he uses navy seal hit men to do the justice, i will admit they are better at it.
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