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Old 04-03-2012, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Nashville,TN
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I feel strongly that North Korea should be liberated, but I think I'm perfectly justified in saying so without being obligated to go over there and shoot Kim-Jung-WhateverItIsNow in the face. Any contention to my premise that focuses not on the issue but on my failure to do so is not an actual argument, but a cop out.
If Aero feels this strongly about this issue he should just do something about it. Same to you. If you feel that strongly then try and do something about it. Don't complain and complain and then no action. Gets old really fast.
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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It sounds great, but how are you going to enforce it?
Give almost no money for support unless they get a ten year implant.
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:55 PM
 
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Default The epic failure of Socialism illustrated here

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It sounds great, but how are you going to enforce it?

Fact is, it's impossible without resorting to rather inhumane tactics that disregard civil rights.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Only when the goverment began picking up the tab did practicing one's civil rights become divorced from personal responsibility.
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:56 PM
 
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You forgot one....the most important of all:

5) Live personally responsible lives through good decision-making, common sense, and logic. And don't have kids you can't afford.
Unfortunately, in several states it's essentially illegal to deliver children in an affordable manner.
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:56 PM
 
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Give almost no money for support unless they get a ten year implant.
May surprise you that Medicaid is not reserved for the unemployed. Many working poor without employee health coverage qualify for Medicaid coverage and only need help with medical care.

What then?
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:56 PM
 
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If Aero feels this strongly about this issue he should just do something about it. Same to you. If you feel that strongly then try and do something about it. Don't complain and complain and then no action. Gets old really fast.
If you feel strongly that we should do something about it if we feel strongly about it, you should do something about it. Gets old really fast.

Like I said, cop out
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:58 PM
 
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With freedom comes responsibility.

Only when the goverment began picking up the tab did practicing one's civil rights become divorced from personal responsibility.
Is it your suggestion that we eliminate Medicaid coverage and subsequently deny prenatal and delivery care for poor maternity patients? Again, pregnancies happen and will continue to happen.

Enough of the moralizing, what is your solution?

Edit: What do you think happened prior to the inception of Medicaid? Yes, some poor women took refuge in unmarried women's homes and delivered their babies to give up for adoption (not sure who paid the bill for room and board). Others did what they had to do: never sought prenatal care, abandoned their babies, tried to take matters in their own hands, or sought out illegal abortion.
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:59 PM
 
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Give almost no money for support unless they get a ten year implant.
So, we forcibly alter their bodies. Got it.
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:04 PM
 
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Why?

The lefies feel that there are two options....kill the baby or force someone else to pay for it?

What about self respect, dignity of self, dignity of life?

What about personal responsibility?
How would you force, or at least encourage, people to be responsible when it comes to getting pregnant? Start letting mothers and babies die in childbirth and let that be a lesson?

Also, what is your position on sex education?
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:05 PM
 
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First, let's review the role and purpose of Medicaid:



Keywords: LOW INCOME; POVERTY; LIMITED INCOME

Now, lets review the evidence:




Now, the opinion:

Fully 40% of births are covered by Medicaid! Why in the world are so many American's having children they cannot afford? Whatever happened to family planning, to include ensuring access to funds and/or insurance that will help to cover maternity costs?!

When can we expect the citizens of the United States of America to reinstitute Personal Responsibility into their lives?

If you can't afford to have children, then you SHOULDN'T have children!

This is the height of personal irresponsibility in America, and it's disgusting!
Bread and circuses, dude. The United States is going the way of that other empire...

Except we have food stamps instead of bread, and WWF and NFL instead of circuses, but...
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