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Old 04-05-2012, 01:04 PM
 
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Those are things that people don't choose though. Having a baby is a choice...I think most people know where babies come from.
So you're pro-choice?
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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So you're pro-choice?
I am. Although I honestly DO hate abortion personally because I know what it entails. It does kill an innocent life that didn't ask to be brought into being. I am definitely for birth control though, much more humane to prevent getting pregnant in the first place.
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:11 PM
 
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Either we mandate who can procreate, invest in comprehensive sex education for the young, or eliminate prenatal/delivery Medicaid coverage and watch the infant and maternal mortality rate skyrocket...or just keep whining on and on and on about who 'should' or 'should not' get pregnant ('cause clearly, that's working so well).

What's it gonna be?

Continuing to whine against 'the poor' is not a solution.
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:12 PM
 
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I am. Although I honestly DO hate abortion personally because I know what it entails. It does kill an innocent life that didn't ask to be brought into being. I am definitely for birth control though, much more humane to prevent getting pregnant in the first place.
So am I.

But what do you propose, if anything, to reduce the amount of pregnancies of the type to which you object?
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:14 PM
Status: "From Now On..He Will Be Called Dingle Barry" (set 22 days ago)
 
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We had children irresponsibly, just like every culture since the dawn of time. The idolized golden age of personal responsiblity only exists in your head.
Planned Parenthood is the reason you're (presumably) a responsible person? It's not something you figured out on your own? Is that what you're saying?
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:15 PM
Status: "From Now On..He Will Be Called Dingle Barry" (set 22 days ago)
 
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Guys carried condoms in their wallets and there were a lot of unwanted children.
Planned Parenthood is the reason why guys don't carry condoms in their wallets anymore? Planned Parenthood is operating in high schools now and other social hangouts in attempt to influence personal responibility? Is that what you're saying?
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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So am I.

But what do you propose, if anything, to reduce the amount of pregnancies of the type to which you object?
As I said before, mandatory birth control for welfare & food stamp recipients. It's not forced because a person chooses to apply to these programs.
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:18 PM
Status: "From Now On..He Will Be Called Dingle Barry" (set 22 days ago)
 
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Ok, then is it a lapse in 'personal responsibility' to develop cancer, Parkinson's, or a femoral fracture when one's insurance is dropped or when one is out of work and uninsured?
I'll not dignify this comment beyond this: If you can't see the difference between making the choice to have sex......that can and does result in pregnancy....and a person who develops a disease through no choice of their own......then there's no reason whatsoever to continue debating with you.

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Those are things that people don't choose though. Having a baby is a choice...I think most people know where babies come from.
Exactly!
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:19 PM
 
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Planned Parenthood is the reason you're (presumably) a responsible person? It's not something you figured out on your own? Is that what you're saying?
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Planned Parenthood is the reason why guys don't carry condoms in their wallets anymore? Planned Parenthood is operating in high schools now and other social hangouts in attempt to influence personal responibility? Is that what you're saying?
What on earth are you yammering on about?

Maybe you should exit your personal Ivory Tower and ask people directly why they don't use condoms, why they do/don't use PP services, why they feel the need to have a child or not.

Anything else just seems to be one crabby guy making expansive value judgments to appease his own sense of superiority.
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:20 PM
 
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As I said before, mandatory birth control for welfare & food stamp recipients. It's not forced because a person chooses to apply to these programs.
Ok, and what about people whose incomes exceed the cut-off for those programs, but who still qualify for prenatal/delivery-specific Medicaid?
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