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Old 04-09-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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Like I've asked a million times, and have yet to receive an answer (hint:you don't have it), after the operator said "we don't need you to do that" and Zimmerman said "ok", do you have any definitive evidence whatsoever that Zimmerman did not head back towards his vehicle? I'll wait.....
Proof? Witnesses said they heard 2 men arguing outside just before the shooting. I guess you just don't like my answer. One resident said she heard shouting and one voice was much louder than the other. This went on for a while. It's unlikely that, if Zimmerman was heading back to his car and Martin was heading home, he'd say "Ya know, I think I'll turn around & attack that jerk." Why? He was staying only a few homes down the path and could be easily identified. It makes no sense. I have a strong feeling that Zimmerman brandished his weapon before any fight began, or he pulled it out and that's when we hear Martin cry for help. Many residents of his community said he used very aggressive tactics.

 
Old 04-09-2012, 12:33 PM
 
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She is getting flashbacks of the Duke Lacrosse case and how that went for the prosecutor.
That was a ploy that an individual started and did not involve the police, a murder, retired judge or a state DA interferring in an active investigation
Why are you insisting on relating the two
 
Old 04-09-2012, 12:35 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Some of these morons have gone out of their way to make it sound like this is some exclusive, white only gated community. It's one step above an apartment complex with a key card gate, if it was some exclusive segregated community why would Trayvon's family live there? They're all black, I guess they slipped in under cover.

Ok brainaic, riddle me this then. If it is a really diverse community why did zimmerman find Trayvon "suspect" considering like you said before that there were already "thugs and lowlifes" already there?
 
Old 04-09-2012, 12:36 PM
 
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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I was listening to Joe Madison last week and a caller called in and said what you said. Joe rightfully read him the riot act. This is merely speculation on your part and there is no basis for it. How can a Virginia magistrate have any influence in Florida? Do you really think folks are going to put their careers on the line for ZImmerman's dad?
They already have when they did not follow correct police procedures. It is not uncommon that out of "mutual respect" that one judge contacts another or even a DA. You will never know the true reach of influence that this man has.

Btw, Joe Madison is a very angry little blackman
 
Old 04-09-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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Proof? Witnesses said they heard 2 men arguing outside just before the shooting. I guess you just don't like my answer. One resident said she heard shouting and one voice was much louder than the other. This went on for a while. It's unlikely that, if Zimmerman was heading back to his car and Martin was heading home, he'd say "Ya know, I think I'll turn around & attack that jerk." Why? He was staying only a few homes down the path and could be easily identified. It makes no sense. I have a strong feeling that Zimmerman brandished his weapon before any fight began, or he pulled it out and that's when we hear Martin cry for help.
I didn't ask you for your speculation or beliefs, I asked for proof that Zimmerman ignored the dispatcher and continued to follow Trayvon. You don't have it. There is no proof that Zimmerman wasn't heading back to his vehicle when the confrontation started. So the constant repeating that Zimmerman ignored the dispatcher is unfounded at best. You know that, yet you keep repeating it over and over.
 
Old 04-09-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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Obviously you have never had to deal with the law, if they wanted to they could have easily found something to charge him with. I guess that you forgot that the homocide detective wanted to charge him with something before the DA intervened. I guess the original charge was lost in the shuffle
Is it possible that this particular State Attorney intervened because the NRA has big bucks and he's running for election? He's usually not challenged and has been in office for over 20 years running the show. Now a Democrat is running against him. I'm not pointing any fingers, but you have your theories, and I have mine. But perhaps this has some bearing on why a sitting State's Attorney shows up at a crime scene with the Chief of Police late on a Sunday evening and overrules a homicide detective? Why didn't they just keep Zimmerman in jail until Monday morning? I don't know the exact timeline, but the shooting was between 7 and 7:30. Zimmerman was taken to the police station and questioned by police. Chris Serino filed an affidavit and requested an arrest and manslaughter charges. Wolfinger lives about 50 miles from Sanford. So he probably got to the scene close to midnight.
 
Old 04-09-2012, 12:42 PM
 
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Keep believing that. It's slipping away and you know it. They may arrest him on some trumped up charges to assuage the angry mob baying at the town's door but they'll be hard pressed to convict.

So are you denying that the blacks in Sanford have a legit beef with the acts of their corrupt police dept? Dude you really should drive through some of these small towns in the deep south and tell them that you are not black and see if they treat you any differently
 
Old 04-09-2012, 12:42 PM
 
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Ok brainaic, riddle me this then. If it is a really diverse community why did zimmerman find Trayvon "suspect" considering like you said before that there were already "thugs and lowlifes" already there?
Because, y'know, he actually looks at people and sees whether he recognizes them as living in the neighborhood?
 
Old 04-09-2012, 12:43 PM
 
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Is it possible that this particular State Attorney intervened because the NRA has big bucks and he's running for election. He's usually not challenged and has been in office for over 20 years running the show. Now a Democrat is running against him. You have your theories, I have mine. Maybe this has some bearing on why a sitting State's Attorney shows up at a crime scene late on a Sunday and overrules a homicide detective? Why didn't they just keep Zimmerman in jail until Monday morning?
This makes sense as well, I was just saying something fishy was going on and now it has come to light.
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