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Whether he used a racial slur matters to some people, who use the alleged slur as evidence that gz racially profiled or set out to murder a black youth or had malice in his mind, etc. It's at least as important as hoodies, skittles, and iced tea.
Here's another example where you answer as if I am supporting Zimmerman and how he handled himself that evening. I am not. I am only saying that there is too much uncertainty, we have numerous experts who cannot agree, and it is detracting from the investigation and increasing racial tensions.
Just a note: keep in mind that he knew everything he said was being recorded.
But he's not a cop! I don't get this type of reasoning at all. It wasn't his job to confront people. I guess I need to post the Neighborhood Watch rules again. Even a coordinator from the Sanford Police went to the community to do a presentation. It's been in several FL newspapers, but here, this is what I found just now using Google.
Here, maybe this will help you understand it. It is the same mentality that drives some people to become a police officer or join the military, or that drove George Zimmerman to seek a degree in criminal justice and join the neighborhood watch program. It is the same instinct that lead George Zimmerman to take actions in the past that resulted in arrests of burglars, caught in the act.
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Sanford Florida is a horribly crime ridden community, it does not surprise me at all that some responsible citizens feel and obligation to try and do something about that.
So he broke the rules of the HOA, what does have to do with the legal case or him not getting arrested for using lethal force to defend himself?
He was never advised not to pursue anyone, the 911 operator told him "we don't need you to do that". There was clearly enough time between the cell phone call and the gun going off for a confrontation to take place, otherwise we wouldn't be talking about a dead 17 year old attacker who messed with the wrong guy.
And according to Zimmerman's attorneys and as well as the 911 tape, in respose to "we don't need you to do that", George said "Okay" and turned around to go back to his car. It was while going back to his car that Martin came up behind him and attacked him.
Here, maybe this will help you understand it. It is the same mentality that drives some people to become a police officer or join the military, or that drove George Zimmerman to seek a degree in criminal justice and join the neighborhood watch program. It is the same instinct that lead George Zimmerman to take actions in the past that resulted in arrests of burglars, caught in the act.
You know what drives Zimmerman and wait this long to tell us? How long have you been his therapist?
Enough of this nonsense. If the authors of a law tell you that the law they wrote does not apply...believe them.
Your premises as to how Zimmerman came away from the crime scene with he boo boos he did is speculation...nothing more. Zimmerman's head is made of Kryptonite. Go bang your head against a brick wall with the force that Zimmerman described a few times and come back and tell us that your wounds match Zimmerman's. What a crock!
I am not making this up. A couple days ago I left a bag of groceries in my car, reached inside and banged my head as I was backing out. I was so dizzy that I had to sit down. I'm sure this happens to everyone (doesn't it?
Now, I admit I'm 30 years older than Zimmerman and not a big woman, but I can't imagine being on your back, ready to pass out (his brother said George was losing consciousness) and shooting someone in the chest, killing him with the first bullet. OTOH, I know little about guns, but he said it was dark and rainy, his vision was blurred..but he had perfect aim?
What backs that up is that Zimmerman wouldn't give the police his location. He said they should call him when they arrived. Evidently, he had no plans to stay in place.
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That's not evidence, that's speculation. There's a big difference.
Well, did the altercation take place near Zimmerman's truck?
Well, did the altercation take place near Zimmerman's truck?
No. If you look at a map of the complex, Trayvon Martin was shot heading toward the townhouse where he was staying. In fact, George Zimmerman even says in the 911 tape "the back entrance" when he said "he's running" and asked in which direction. Since that's where he was found (on his way toward the back entrance) I don't understand why people are claiming Trayvon followed him back to his truck and jumped him.
If Zimmerman actually felt his life were threatened by the attack, then yes, he would be innocent and Martin would be the guilty party.
However, from the 911 tapes I have heard, the boy was yelling for help, which is generally not a threatening position. This was seconds before he was shot. If Zimmerman could have gotten away, which it appears that was the case, then no, it wouldn't matter who started the fight.
If you shoot someone who is on top of you,
you don't really have to "aim."
Forget aim...I'm still trying to visualize fending someone off as your head is being bashed repeatedly against concrete, while your nose is being pummeled and still having the wherewithal and physical contortions to get to your gun.
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I don't get this type of reasoning at all. It wasn't his job to confront people. I guess I need to post the Neighborhood Watch rules again. Even a coordinator from the Sanford Police went to the community to do a presentation. It's been in several FL newspapers, but here, this is what I found just now using Google.
