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Old 04-10-2012, 08:41 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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Fat people take up too many resources. They don't know their limits. And it translates into higher hospital bills for everyone and making others wait while they tend to fat people.

Good for this hospital, I say. I hope it translates into savings for other, healthier patients who don't need gastric bypass surgery or heart bypass surgery or diabetes or dialysis or cancer treatment because they didn't know when to stop feeding.

Being fat is an epidemic and high time it stopped.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Do you know how health insurance works? Pooled risk?

healthy people subsidize unhealthy people - that's how health insurance functions - the more unhealthy people there are, the more expensive it is for everyone.
I get that, but it seems like people love to target only two groups - the overweight and the smokers. I understand those are high risk categories, but so are many other things (which I don't see employers attacking).
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Fat people take up too many resources. They don't know their limits. And it translates into higher hospital bills for everyone and making others wait while they tend to fat people.

Good for this hospital, I say. I hope it translates into savings for other, healthier patients who don't need gastric bypass surgery or heart bypass surgery or diabetes or dialysis or cancer treatment because they didn't know when to stop feeding.

Being fat is an epidemic and high time it stopped.
Being rude and thoughtless in general is apparently an epidemic too...
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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I get that, but it seems like people love to target only two groups - the overweight and the smokers. I understand those are high risk categories, but so are many other things (which I don't see employers attacking).
Well these are both areas which are in a person's control.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:16 PM
 
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I get that, but it seems like people love to target only two groups - the overweight and the smokers. I understand those are high risk categories, but so are many other things (which I don't see employers attacking).
Those are the two groups that cost the most money to society in terms of health care - amd both are problems that people choose to have.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:37 PM
 
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Those are the two groups that cost the most money to society in terms of health care - amd both are problems that people choose to have.
gizmo might be onto something tho: people who die of smoking and being fat DON'T cost as much as someone who's senile for many years. The weight thing with hospitals is nurses and aides blowing out their backs and winding up on disability for many years till they die.
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:31 PM
 
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gizmo might be onto something tho: people who die of smoking and being fat DON'T cost as much as someone who's senile for many years. The weight thing with hospitals is nurses and aides blowing out their backs and winding up on disability for many years till they die.
And you're implying that only overweight nurses/aides suffer back injuries?
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:37 PM
 
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and coming from Victoria Texas where closed down gyms turn into all you can eat buffet chains
Is that true? If so, that's pretty sad. LOL
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:43 PM
 
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gizmo might be onto something tho: people who die of smoking and being fat DON'T cost as much as someone who's senile for many years. The weight thing with hospitals is nurses and aides blowing out their backs and winding up on disability for many years till they die.
Yes, but smoking and obesity cost us more in aggregate because more people smoke and get fat. Firther, people don't choose to become senile, people do choose to smoke and get fat.
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:03 PM
 
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Victoria, Texas is in the heart of Breakfast Burrito with a Dr. Pepper country.

I can't imagine Victoria is a mecca of physical fitness.
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