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Old 04-05-2012, 10:30 PM
 
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I would think that 'conserving' also included blood and land.
Conserving the most important part of your country.

The actual country.

The land itself and the basis for all life growing on it.
LOL.

Any environmentally conscious conservatives on these boards?
What are your thoughts on this?

Can conservatives be stewards of the Earth?

Is it possible? Thanks.
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Old 04-05-2012, 10:33 PM
 
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Hey, I see my house!
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Old 04-05-2012, 10:33 PM
 
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Many conservatives like myself donate countless hours and dollars to helping the environment, especially in our local areas. If you honestly believe that all conservatives hate the Earth then you've been sold a bill of fake goods by the left who want nothing more than to vilify anyone who threatens their political agenda.

Take your pick these days, the left has spent plenty time creating lies to take people's minds off of the problems that we face in this country. There's no conservative war on women, there's no conservative war against the environment and there's no conservative war against this country.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:20 PM
 
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Conservatives consider anything charitable or kind to others to be "unmasculine". Even when corporations are dumping toxic waste into the rivers they get their drinking water, they'll never ally themselves with what they perceive to be bleeding heart liberals.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:20 PM
 
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Many conservatives like myself donate countless hours and dollars to helping the environment, especially in our local areas. If you honestly believe that all conservatives hate the Earth then you've been sold a bill of fake goods by the left who want nothing more than to vilify anyone who threatens their political agenda.

Take your pick these days, the left has spent plenty time creating lies to take people's minds off of the problems that we face in this country. There's no conservative war on women, there's no conservative war against the environment and there's no conservative war against this country.
Defensive much? All I did was ask a question.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:29 PM
 
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I care about the environment. It's one of the few things that I think the federal government should be involved in.

Too bad they suck at everything.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:33 PM
 
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Defensive much? All I did was ask a question.
Not defensive at all, you asked and I answered. Got any more questions for this environmentally conscious conservative?
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:34 PM
 
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Conservatives consider anything charitable or kind to others to be "unmasculine". Even when corporations are dumping toxic waste into the rivers they get their drinking water, they'll never ally themselves with what they perceive to be bleeding heart liberals.
That completely explains why conservatives on average are more charitable than liberals, we donate more money and time to charities than liberals do...
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:35 PM
 
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I don't think moderate republicans have always been antienvironment. Tom McCall in Oregon was instrumental in protecting the Oregon Coast from development. And Nixon helped launch the EPA and a number of other things.

I think the conservatives tend to abhor regulations generally. There is a prevailing view that the resource users will always regulate themselve most efficiently, the polluter will not pollute more than necessary, ranchers always knows best how to ranch, the logger how to log, the miner how to mine, etc. Abundant research and an array of Superfund sites coast to coast has shown these claims of self-policing users to be false. The desire to internalize the short-term profits and externalize the damage (or walk away completely) is overwhelming. Regulations are necessary.

I think the current climate is so juiced up with partisanship that almost any sort of environmental protection will be label ******* job killing, tree hugging mumbo jumbo. In the us vs. them world view, this is a "them" issue. But of course we all lose from a bad environment. It is another example of a self-defeating outcome of partisanship and self-deluding thinking.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:35 PM
 
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They're at least supposed to be monitoring corporate maleficence.
Not their fault that we have allowed the fox to guard the chicken coop, so to speak.
With Exxon board members revolving in and out of the EPA, etc etc etc.

Anyways, I ask because there are a few things I really side with conservatives about.
But environment is really a huge issue with me. And it seems like the hot rail issue for the Right.

So, I was hoping to get some good links and book suggestions are Green Republicans, or whatever.
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