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Old 04-06-2012, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Sgt. Stein who posted several derogatory statements and created websites and political "parties" has been recommended for dismissal in reduction in rank to lance corporal and given a less than honorable discharge. Forfeiting his military benefits and accrued over his 9 year enlistment.

Sometimes you're the bug, sometimes your the windshield LCpl Stein. Good luck selling houses.

U.S. News - Military board: Tea Party Marine who slammed Obama on Facebook should be dismissed

 
Old 04-06-2012, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I would say this, soon to be former, Marine isn't the brightest bulb in the packet.
 
Old 04-06-2012, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Especially considering he was warned, and warned by not only his immediate superiors but those also outside his direct chain of command.

But he couldn't take a hint. Now he's being given an even bigger message...."You're Fired".
 
Old 04-06-2012, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Commander In Chief won't follow the law and Constitution? Bye-bye.

What's good for the goose.....right?
 
Old 04-06-2012, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Texas
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There's only one difference. This idgit was in the Armed Forces and was repeatedly told he was in violation of the Pentagon's rules.

President Obama contrary to YOUR opinion hasn't been found by any court, any legal or Constitutional body to have done ANYTHING un-constitutional.

So one case is based in fact...the other is your fantasy.

No goose, no gander, no sale.
 
Old 04-06-2012, 06:28 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Originally Posted by txgolfer130 View Post
Sgt. Stein who posted several derogatory statements and created websites and political "parties" has been recommended for dismissal in reduction in rank to lance corporal and given a less than honorable discharge. Forfeiting his military benefits and accrued over his 9 year enlistment.

Sometimes you're the bug, sometimes your the windshield LCpl Stein. Good luck selling houses.

U.S. News - Military board: Tea Party Marine who slammed Obama on Facebook should be dismissed
Wow, how stupid. Forfeiting your military benefits and the stigma of a dishonorable discharge because you couldn't keep your political opinions to yourself.
 
Old 04-06-2012, 06:56 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The best part of all this...

He will have job offer after offer, to be better off momentarily and free once again.

Sounds like it was slavery, to be in the military these days.
 
Old 04-06-2012, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Pentagon directives say military personnel in uniform cannot sponsor a political club; participate in any TV or radio program or group discussion that advocates for or against a political party, candidate or cause; or speak at any event promoting a political movement.
Commissioned officers also may not use contemptuous words against senior officials.

Yep. Even if you don't like the President, keep it to yourself. He signed a contract saying he would abide by the Marine's rules. Then he gave those rules the finger. He got what he deserved.
 
Old 04-06-2012, 07:04 AM
 
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I don't thing the Sergeant made an intelligent decision but I do think he made a wise decision... I wish more people in the military would question orders that they think is unethical or immoral... I can see how if the Government asked the military to attack Americans, they would do so and said they did it because they were told to... it wasn't too long ago people were enlisted in a study to see what people would do in situations where they were inflicting physical pain on someone else... many of you should know of it because it was widely reported in the media... the study asked participants to give an electric shock to a recipient in another room when ordered to do so... even though they were inflicting pain and knew it was wrong, they still did it... at the end, they asked them why they would do something like that and they replied because someone told them to... after the study many the participants had mental breakdowns/trauma as a result and questioned how they could do something that was clearly wrong... the military are like those kind of people... sometimes the military asks you to put aside your wisdom... sometimes you do and sometimes you don't...
 
Old 04-06-2012, 07:07 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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The best part of all this...

He will have job offer after offer, to be better off momentarily and free once again.

Sounds like it was slavery, to be in the military these days.
As opposed to when? Military personnel are the essentially the property of the federal government. You go where they tell you to go, you do what they tell you to do, and you live where they tell you to live, you fight when they tell you to fight. It's certainly not for everyone. That arrangement should be understood when you sign up, which is why I have no sympathy for this guy.

And by the way, if a marine faced the same discipline for talking trash about George W. Bush, I'd have the exact same attitude--even if I personally agreed with his views.
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