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Old 04-07-2012, 12:30 PM
 
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You don't believe that fine arts are important? Are you suggesting creative fields have no place?

So you want to live your life with no art? No music? No television? No movies? No video games? No gourmet food?

They are important, as hobbies. And as hobbies trying to earn a living with them is a risk. If successful ( what , maybe 1 % ?) the payoff can be huge. But it needs to be though thru before one decides on that for a living. And that person is fully responsable for whatever the outcome.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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It is the perfect storm for violence.
So is owning kitchen knives in a home if the people there are unstable so I don't get the point. You can give a stable person and M2 machine gun and they won't ever consider using it to harm others. You can give an unstable person a butter knife and they'll try to kill someone with it.

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I'm not going to debate with you on the issue any further. If the Occupy Movement shows up with guns, don't cry foul. It's the American way right? Possibly the police wouldn't be shooting innocent protesters if the protesters had guns right?
Like I said up top if people are stable they could have hundreds of firearms and pose no threat. If people are unstable giving them butter knives and they'll attempt to kill and rob people with them.

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Do you know how close you are to having a mass riot if protesters are encouraged to show up armed?
We've already had protesters who are angry show up armed before in the United States and yet the police were able to contain the situation so I don't see your point here.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:34 PM
 
Location: USA
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So is owning kitchen knives in a home if the people there are unstable so I don't get the point. You can give a stable person and M2 machine gun and they won't ever consider using it to harm others. You can give an unstable person a butter knife and they'll try to kill someone with it.



Like I said up top if people are stable they could have hundreds of firearms and pose no threat. If people are unstable giving them butter knives and they'll attempt to kill and rob people with them.



We've already had protesters who are angry show up armed before in the United States and yet the police were able to contain the situation so I don't see your point here.
Like I told the other poster, don't be a hypocrite when it happens. That's all I'm saying.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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The officer in the video was reprimanded for his behavior. Obviously his OWN police department didn't believe he handled things in the correct way.
Actually no. The police department suspended them with pay to most likely quiet down protests over their actions.


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How about simply arresting the students?
What they did was fairly typical. It was nonlethal force, they didn't use batons or firearms, they didn't use gas which would've hit people who were not necessarily there protesting. Overall I'd say they did there job fine.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:37 PM
 
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They are important, as hobbies. And as hobbies trying to earn a living with them is a risk. If successful ( what , maybe 1 % ?) the payoff can be huge. But it needs to be though thru before one decides on that for a living. And that person is fully responsable for whatever the outcome.
So do you want all college students to switch to the majors you listed before so that they can find employment after college? In the medical field, isn't there a limit on how many students are admitted? Isn't it the same with some of the other fields you listed?

How do you expect those out of college to compete with those who have years of experience? With the hyper-inflation that we've experienced, and stagnant wages, how do you expect the average worker to keep up? Do you think our economy is heading in the right direction? What changes do YOU think need to be made to the economy?
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Like I told the other poster, don't be a hypocrite when it happens. That's all I'm saying.
Oh I'm not and I believe law enforcement in the area is capable of dealing with the situation is all.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:38 PM
 
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Actually no. The police department suspended them with pay to most likely quiet down protests over their actions.




What they did was fairly typical. It was nonlethal force, they didn't use batons or firearms, they didn't use gas which would've hit people who were not necessarily there protesting. Overall I'd say they did there job fine.
Proves my point.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:40 PM
 
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Oh I'm not and I believe law enforcement in the area is capable of dealing with the situation is all.
I support the movement, but I thinking showing up with guns is a bad idea. If one shot is fired, all of a sudden you have chaos on hands. Some of those holding guns might have been beaten by police during the last protest or unjustly arrested. Some of the officers might have been verbally abused or in some instances threatened by some of the protesters.

It's not a good situation IMO.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Filthy habits or not, plan on seeing them hit the streets again this summer. This time there will be a new twist. They will become more violent and even more vile, in order to try to gain national attention. Nevermind that their causes are unspecific and they can't articulate anything other than they're pissed off because the world hasn't been handed to them. They still think they deserve some kind of national recognition and believe it or not, they think they deserve praise for their immature and ignorant actions.
I think you need to see both of my links in the OP to see that they do, indeed, have plans for their riots this summer. It has been carefully planned and the money behind this year's movement has already been counted out. See those two things, especially the second one that shows who is kicking in money to fund this year's planned riots. They are training 100,000 leaders next week beginning Monday.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:42 PM
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How is a college student, who knows nothing about the direction of the future economy, supposed to know that there won't be any jobs available after they graduate? Our economy is in it's worst state since the great depression.
Well, they could try knowing something about the economy. BLS has those handy statistics and projections for various fields. Professional organizations often keep track of employment outcomes. THe information is out there if you want it.

Or use common sense. When you discover that there are several thousand psychology majors at a school with 20,000 students, perhaps you should stop and ask yourself if the country really needs all those psychologists. A reasonable person concludes that they're not all needed.
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