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Old 04-08-2012, 07:47 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Hugo Chavez is battling cancer. But the treatment he has received in his own country, where they have a system which Obamacare models, isn't satisfactory to save him. So, he is seeking treatment elsewhere.

This article perfectly describes the situation Americans will face, if Obamacare is not overturned, or repealed. Pay particular attention to the percentage of Venezuelans that live beyond age 65. It isn't encouraging.

While here in America, our health care system has constantly added years to our lives, the opposite is about to happen, under Obamacare.

Read and be warned. This is what is coming to us, thanks to Obama and the Democrats.
[T]he share-the-wealth crowd should pay heed. All those here in America who think they'll be getting something of value for nothing may one day find it costly after all. Just like in Venezuela, it will be too late to change things if one day Barack Obama chooses to go elsewhere for medical care rather than chance his survival on the shoddy medical system he's imposed on everyone else.
Read more: Articles: Life Lessons from Chávez's Cancer
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Please, I oppose Obamacare, but comparing our healthcare sysyem with that of a third world country is a bit absurd.
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Houston, texas
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O-Care will destroy health care. So called 'free' healthcare will inherently increase demand ( price goes down demand goes up). With increase demand and no efficient increase in services will cause shortages and limit services.
Entitlements without limits will ultimately destroy itself and collaterally everything around it.
The only way the Senate could pass O-Care in the first place was by playing parliamentary tricks circumventing both tradition and the Constitution. Now they are just stunned that the Supreme Court might-just might- have a legitimate issue with the constitutionality of the law.
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:19 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Hugo Chavez is battling cancer. But the treatment he has received in his own country, where they have a system which Obamacare models, isn't satisfactory to save him. So, he is seeking treatment elsewhere.

This article perfectly describes the situation Americans will face, if Obamacare is not overturned, or repealed. Pay particular attention to the percentage of Venezuelans that live beyond age 65. It isn't encouraging.

While here in America, our health care system has constantly added years to our lives, the opposite is about to happen, under Obamacare.

Read and be warned. This is what is coming to us, thanks to Obama and the Democrats.
[T]he share-the-wealth crowd should pay heed. All those here in America who think they'll be getting something of value for nothing may one day find it costly after all. Just like in Venezuela, it will be too late to change things if one day Barack Obama chooses to go elsewhere for medical care rather than chance his survival on the shoddy medical system he's imposed on everyone else.
Read more: Articles: Life Lessons from Chávez's Cancer
Who cares what Hugo is doing. You don't realize that health care in this country is already screwed if it continues on the same path it is currently on. If nothing is done, then the future of health care is skyrocketing expense with a smaller and smaller portion of people footing the bill and more and more people with only an emergency room to rely upon for acute medical situations.
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Please, I oppose Obamacare, but comparing our healthcare sysyem with that of a third world country is a bit absurd.
Seriously. A better comparison would be, say, our neighbors to the North or just about every Western European country or Japan, almost all of which have better health than us.
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Old 04-08-2012, 01:26 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Please, I oppose Obamacare, but comparing our healthcare sysyem with that of a third world country is a bit absurd.
I was comparing what our health care system will be under Obamacare, not what it is today. We have the best health care in the world. That will change if the government is paying for everything, telling you what procedures, etc. you can and can't have, and dictating what doctors can be paid.
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Old 04-08-2012, 01:28 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Seriously. A better comparison would be, say, our neighbors to the North or just about every Western European country or Japan, almost all of which have better health than us.
Then why do so many come here for treatment?
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Old 04-08-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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You cannot compare healthcare systems like that... You will have to ask Chavez why he is seeking to go see a doctor in some other country... I suspect its because Cuban doctors don't really care much about Venezulan politics and aren't likely to release damaging information about Chavez...
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Old 04-08-2012, 01:34 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Who cares what Hugo is doing. You don't realize that health care in this country is already screwed if it continues on the same path it is currently on. If nothing is done, then the future of health care is skyrocketing expense with a smaller and smaller portion of people footing the bill and more and more people with only an emergency room to rely upon for acute medical situations.
So the answer was to throw the baby out with the bath water? What we will have under Obamacare is the reason Chavez won't be treated in his own country.

Similarly, many foreigners come here for treatment now. But once Obamacare kicks in, our system will be headed south.

When the government is going to tell you what your treatment will be, based on some bureaucrats assessment, good luck. It won't be up to you anymore. You won't have choices.
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Old 04-08-2012, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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Healthcare in America will just get worst and eventually be available only to affluent Americans.
Future advice: don't get sick in America - the 'world's greatest nation'.
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