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Old 04-11-2012, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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The truth should be easy to sort out in a court of law; following the law not dismissing cases citing lack of.

The evidence was presented in a 3 hour court case in which the obama team failed to produce evidence. They should have lost by default - that is the law!!
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:13 PM
 
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We want proof! We want access to the microfilm records.
good luck with that.

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The states assertion that it is on file doesn't constitute proof;
actually, it does. full faith and credit clause of the US constitution.

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This whole thing could have easily been settled many years ago (4).
not according to you. you've specifically stated you will believe no document that supports obama was born in the US ( nor would it satisfy the birthers that cling to the "2 US parent" theory ).

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What do you think the appropriate punishment should be when it is finally PROVEN to the whole world Barry is an imposter!
40 whacks from a unicorn's tail.
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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The scenario(s) birthers present make zero sense. I think, for a conspiracy this vast, so complex, and with so much at stake, requiring such brilliance and planning, that the people possessing the faculties necessary for planning it would have the foresight to install an American born puppet.
Otherwise, why go to all this trouble, risk, and expense to install someone who could be disqualified by a mere technicality? Makes no GD sense at all, and yet they claim we're the ones who aren't seeing the obvious.
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:23 PM
 
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The evidence was presented in a 3 hour court case in which the obama team failed to produce evidence. They should have lost by default - that is the law!!
both plaintiffs were given the option for a default judgement in the georgia ballot challenge......... and they turned it down!

it was then up to them to satisfy the burden of proof and they failed ( losing to an empty chair ).

the first part of the hearing promoted that minor v happersett gives an exclusive definition of NBC. the judge disagreed ( as multiple others have ) and the argument was dismissed.

the next part was orly taitz. she put on the stand multiple people to give expert testimony........ and never qualified them to the court as experts! ( which they weren't ).
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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full faith and credit clause of the US constitution. does not constitute proof when too many experts claim it is a poor forgery.

We must eliminate the deception and the lies to PRESENT THE TRUTH one time in a court of law. and that must be done in a court of law with expert testimony NOT someone's word for it.

A trial by jury - not one person's word!!
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:28 PM
 
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full faith and credit clause of the US constitution. does not constitute proof when too many experts claim it is a poor forgery.
That footnote seems to be missing from my copy of the US Constitution.
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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The evidence was presented in a 3 hour court case in which the obama team failed to produce evidence. They should have lost by default - that is the law!!
Not if the plaintiff insists on a judgment on the merits. Which they, being Birthers and therefore rather stupid, did. Ooops.
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:32 PM
 
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yes, he would be a dual citizen, not a natural born citizen, due to his father being a Kenyan. Wait a minute, I missed the part where you said he's born in another country.

1. A "natural born" citizen is any person born of US citizen parents (that's two) in the U. S. mainland (includes Alaska and Hawaii) -- think Ronald Reagan -- in this case, there is no foreign entanglement via parentage AND there is no foreign entanglement via birthplace.

2. A citizen "by statute" is any person born of US citizen parent(s) outside the United States -- think John McCain -- in this case, there is no foreign entanglement via parentage BUT there is a foreign entanglement via birthplace (Colon, Panama).

3. A "native born" citizen, is any person born in the United States mainland -- think Barack Obama -- in this case, there is no foreign entanglement via birthplace (if he was born in Hawaii) BUT there is a foreign entanglement via his parentage (if Barak Obama is his father).

4. If you're not born here, or if your parents aren't Americans, then the only way you get citizenship is via marriage or naturalization -- a "naturalized" citizen is a citizen as the result of these processes -- think Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Those are all lovely definitions. Unfortunately, they aren't legal definitions. Legally, there are only two kinds of citizenship in this country: those who acquire their citizenship at birth (natural-born citizens), and those who acquire their citizenship through naturalization (naturalized citizens). Dual citizenship doesn't enter into the equation, because American citizenship does not reference the citizenship laws of other countries.
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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Makes no GD sense at all, and yet they claim we're the ones who aren't seeing the obvious.
It's true. Some just can't see the obvious such as yourself. That is usually due to a closed mind or limited intellect. Case in point. Many refused to fathom that Nixon could have ever been involved with the Watergate coverup at the time the story broke but he was.
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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