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The truth should be easy to sort out in a court of law; following the law not dismissing cases citing lack of.
The evidence was presented in a 3 hour court case in which the obama team failed to produce evidence. They should have lost by default - that is the law!!
If the birthers hadn't insisted on presenting their case, Obama would have lost. But the birthers did insist on having their case heard on its merits. Which, by law, they have the right to do---THAT IS THE LAW!! And they lost based on the lack of merit of their case.
full faith and credit clause of the US constitution. does not constitute proof when too many experts claim it is a poor forgery.
We must eliminate the deception and the lies to PRESENT THE TRUTH one time in a court of law. and that must be done in a court of law with expert testimony NOT someone's word for it.
A trial by jury - not one person's word!!
That would be too many pseudo-experts. They aren't really experts because they aren't qualified as experts. Self-proclamation as an expert really isn't valid. Not in the legal word, and, for that matter, not in the practical world.
full faith and credit clause of the US constitution. does not constitute proof when too many experts claim it is a poor forgery.
not a single qualified forensics expert has testified that the LFBC is fraudulent.
in fact mike zullo, of the cold case posse, has claimed that they contacted forensics experts but they refused to give an opinion without seeing an original document.
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... and that must be done in a court of law...
there are still ballot challenges going on. the CCP has directly refused to testify at any of them.
full faith and credit clause of the US constitution. does not constitute proof when too many experts claim it is a poor forgery.
We must eliminate the deception and the lies to PRESENT THE TRUTH one time in a court of law. and that must be done in a court of law with expert testimony NOT someone's word for it.
A trial by jury - not one person's word!!
It must be infuriating to you that the Full Faith and Credit Clause completely renders any and all of your arguments irrelevant. I can picture the spray of frothy spittle cascading over your computer screen as you mash furiously away at your keyboard. But still, you don't get to disregard the Constitution when it becomes inconvenient to your agenda. That's why it's laughable that you and your ilk claim to be defending The Constitution when you clearly and flagrantly are attempting to subvert it, and are willing to break a myriad of other laws (privacy, identity theft) in the process as well.
Shame on you.
That would be too many pseudo-experts. They aren't really experts because they aren't qualified as experts. Self-proclamation as an expert really isn't valid. Not in the legal word, and, for that matter, not in the practical world.
And none of these self-proclaimed experts even stayed at a Holiday Inn Express™ last night!
If the birthers hadn't insisted on presenting their case, Obama would have lost. But the birthers did insist on having their case heard on its merits. Which, by law, they have the right to do---THAT IS THE LAW!! And they lost based on the lack of merit of their case.
You are wrong!
The judge clearly said; TO ignore this case (obama) you do so at your own peril.
Then Jablonsky went behind the judges back and threatened the SOS & later the judge.
Then the judge changed his ruling 180 degree about face.
This works in every case when they threaten the children or family members.
Why did they threaten the press @ Sheriff Joe's March 1st hearing? Why did some media reporters quit ?? They were threatened!
INNOCENT PEOPLE: do not go around threatening people. DOH!!
THESE PEOPLE ARE SERIOUS they will murder anyone that stands in their way.
The two people that went to Obama's church that were coming forward to testify. Each found dead in their apartments with multiple gun shoot wounds.
There is not one shred of evidence these nitwits would ever accept as proof. Their toxic cocktail of ignorance, mild racism and paranoia has them oblivious to even the most simple truths. One wonders what they could have accomplished if they used all the time, energy, and "research" they put into this topic into something productive.
The judges in neither the Elg case or the Minor case address whether Elg or Minor would be considered "natural born citizens" if all their parents hadn't been US citizens. Why? Because both were born to US citizens. So the justices didn't have to rule on whether born in the USA alone conferred natural-born citizenship. Judges actually stick to the facts of the case. Which is why Wong is more persuasive regarding natural born citizenship and a child whose parents were not US citizens.
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The foregoing considerations and authorities irresistibly lead us to these conclusions: The fourteenth amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens…Every citizen or subject of another country, while domiciled here, is within the allegiance and the protection, and consequently subject to the jurisdiction, of the United States. His allegiance to the United States is direct and immediate…and his child, as said by Mr. Binney in his essay before quoted, ‘If born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural-born child of a citizen…’
Justice Gray does a very revealing compare and contrast here:
- he compares two children
- on the one hand, he mentions the US born child of a resident alien - on the other hand, he mentions the “natural-born” child of a citizen Do you see the difference? He clearly states that only one is natural-born: the child of the citizen.
He says that both are citizens. But only the child of the citizen is natural born – for this is what he is comparing the other one to. So the holding indicates Wong Kim Ark was as much a citizen as any other citizen despite not being natural-born. – The Court does not say that the child of the alien is a natural-born citizen.
- By the Wong Kim Ark decision, both children – the alien born and the natural born – are entitled to the same rights and protections as citizens.
- But only one satisfies the requirements to be President: the natural born child.
What he does say is that they are both citizens, we do not dispute that! He does not say they are both natural born citizens, he makes that distinction clear.
It's true. Some just can't see the obvious such as yourself. That is usually due to a closed mind or limited intellect. Case in point. Many refused to fathom that Nixon could have ever been involved with the Watergate coverup at the time the story broke but he was.
The irony of being accused of being closed minded, or of limited intellect, by a birther of all people, is absolutely precious.
The judge clearly said; TO ignore this case (obama) you do so at your own peril.
Then Jablonsky went behind the judges back and threatened the SOS & later the judge.
Then the judge changed his ruling 180 degree about face.
This works in every case when they threaten the children or family members.
Why did they threaten the press @ Sheriff Joe's March 1st hearing? Why did some media reporters quit ?? They were threatened!
INNOCENT PEOPLE: do not go around threatening people. DOH!!
THESE PEOPLE ARE SERIOUS they will murder anyone that stands in their way.
The two people that went to Obama's church that were coming forward to testify. Each found dead in their apartments with multiple gun shoot wounds.
Nope. The judge offered Taitz et al a default judgment. They turned it down, in order to have a chance to argue the merits of their cases. The merits were found lacking, and they lost. All the talk about threats is just fantasy on the part of birthers who cannot admit that their cases lack merit.
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