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Old 04-10-2012, 03:26 PM
 
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So when I read Ayn Rand I learned about a philosophy that requires each of us to offer value to one another, to be of service, in order to prosper. Free people trading as equals with one another of their own free will cannot abuse each other.

"We do not owe our dinner to charity on the part of the butcher or the baker, but rather to their own self-regard."

I see this principle played out in American history, the story of the wealthiest, most productive society ever. And I see it every day in my business life, where the only means I have to improve my own income and wealth is to be of greater service and value to increasing numbers of people.

If I were the characteristic bogeyman business person of leftist lore, I would be out of business in a flash. Customers seek the best value, not the worst--so I must offer my best. What about Bernie Madoff, or Alan Stanford, you might ask. You may not have noticed, but they are languishing in prison now.

By your comments you have spent zero time in Banking or on Wall St.
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Old 04-10-2012, 03:30 PM
 
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oh please.

obama sponsored the DREAM act.

what is that except pandering to illegal immigrant families?

that, and the foreign debt forgiveness bill.

all at the expense of working americans.

for the record, i will say that i know a few democrats personally who are anti illegal immigration but that isn't the democratic party position, which has consistently been pro illegal.

would you argue with that?
Yes I would argue with that.....I would say that if you speak to anyone anywhere with a brain, they would say we need to do something about the influx of south and Central Americans entering the Country. The Dream Act is a start.

Also, how many Republican's who own big agra business' or large hotel chains or giant factories hire folks with no citizenship???

When Money is involved, the R's will drop the facade and fire every American in site for the chance at increasing their margins.
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Old 04-10-2012, 03:42 PM
 
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Republicans hate Obama and everyone else who isn't like them.
Republicans don't really love America, they love authority, the Status Quo, conformism, and materialism.
Sure, that's why conservatives are for small government, lower taxes, personal freedom, free markets, school choice, freedom of religious expression...yeah, that's the very height of conformism and authority. Seriously, where did you get that trash?
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Old 04-10-2012, 03:45 PM
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Sure, that's why conservatives are for small government, lower taxes, personal freedom, free markets, school choice, freedom of religious expression...yeah, that's the very height of conformism and authority. Seriously, where did you get that trash?

Please list some of the ways that Republicans support personal freedom. I think someone has swallowed the GOP marketing campaign hook line and sinker.
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Old 04-10-2012, 03:49 PM
 
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Yes they do, they will cut off their noses to spite their faces. I have been saying it and they have the audicity to call themselves patriots. Republicans have prayed for his death, questioned his citizenship, hate to see any sign of economic recovery and refuse to give credit where credit is due, the would rather we become a third world country than to see Obama succeed. You can't love your country too much when hating one man and seeing him fail becomes a priority over seeing your country succeed.
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Old 04-10-2012, 03:49 PM
 
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I also remember when I was 12 having a conversation with my friends. We couldnt wait until the day that we got to show our hatred toward Obama.

Now the day has come. live is wonderful
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Old 04-10-2012, 03:58 PM
 
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Sadly, yes, for the most part. But then they have the gall to get on their high horse and call us unpatriotic, and traitors, and haters of the Constitution. It's that hypocrisy and arrogance that's the worst of all.
That's flippin' rich. Your president signed to extend the Patriot Act and he signed the NDAA. You want to talk about the Constitution? You have NO ROOM to talk about the Constitution using the same breath to glorify St. Hope and Change.
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:11 PM
 
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I'll take that for what it's worth from a fan of the most overrated pop group in history.
Take it any way you want, but I do suggest you cease putting your abject ignorance on public display as you did in the two posts (unless you are looking for sympathy-replies).
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:12 PM
 
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It is a bizarre mindset of the right, they applaud downfalls and shun success, I guess it somehow reflects how they may be in life.
Here you have a textbook example of Bass Ackwards. Thanks for the example.
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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Ha, sorry DD but I can't stand the Beatles. Most of their music is just cheesy pop .....oh well time to move on.
Yes, you and perhaps 3 others globally feel like that. History will out, and their music will play on the airwaves for a century more.
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