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Old 04-12-2012, 07:43 AM
 
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Bloomberg is a liberal. No surprise.
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The fundamental goal of Bloomberg and the rest of the elites on both the Right and the Left is to disarm everyone not in their club of wealth and privilege. This has been the basis of weapons control since OGG banned anyone but him and his guards from having chipped flint knives instead of just stones and clubs.

If someone attacks or physically threatens you attack with unrestrained fierceness. Use every skill and weapon you might have or can grab including your assailant’s. Do not stop until the attack is stopped or you are incapacitated or dead.
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:54 AM
 
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Smile Bloomberg Takes on Stand Your Ground Laws

Mayor Bloomberg takes a stand against controversial self-defense law - NY Daily News

Not a fan of his generally, but here I'm glad to see him use his stature as the mayor of the nation's largest city and his widespread recognition factor. PLus, of course, he is one of few pols who has supporters in both political parties.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Please combine these threads. thank you.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:02 AM
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Location: The Plains
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The day that every one carries a gun and starts blasting away at people when we have a "reason " to believe they are going to hurt us is when we have chaos. IMO a gun law that has to use weasel words like "reasonable belief" is not good gun law. Think about it, under this law I can blast anyone who I believe is showing aggression toward me. So if I need some thing to do I can pack heat walk around the hood late at night and blast people. So long as they have a criminal record its a free kill. That's the society we live in. Now lets all go out and enjoy our new guns!
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:07 AM
 
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Default more hyperbole from the left.........

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The day that every one carries a gun and starts blasting away at people when we have a "reason " to believe they are going to hurt us is when we have chaos. IMO a gun law that has to use weasel words like "reasonable belief" is not good gun law. Think about it, under this law I can blast anyone who I believe is showing aggression toward me. So if I need some thing to do I can pack heat walk around the hood late at night and blast people. So long as they have a criminal record its a free kill. That's the society we live in. Now lets all go out and enjoy our new guns!
It is obvious the above poster doesn't know diddley squat about the stand your ground laws. The perception is not merely about aggression but must pose an imminent lethal threat. Frankly, the laws are quite clear, despite the anti-2A rhetoric by the "pro-disarm and victim enrichment zone" folk.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:12 AM
 
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They have gone beyond basic self defense.
No they havent. If you cant prove that your life was in danger or that you were going to suffer great bodily harm...then you will be charged and prosecuted. What do you suggest someone does.....stand there and let some perp beat you to within an inch of yor life and do nothing but scream for help? Who's coming to help you? The cops.....maybe in 10 minutes. You have the right to stand your ground in any place where you have the legal right to be.
If some 300 lb thug is beating the crap outta your wife in the walmart parking lot.....would you want her to lay down and die or shoot the moron?
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:12 AM
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Location: The Plains
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It is obvious the above poster doesn't know diddley squat about the stand your ground laws. The perception is not merely about aggression but must pose an imminent lethal threat.
the law is nebulous, Zimmerman was released when there was no lethal threat to him, the word reasonable belief means he thought this was a dangerous person so he killed him and the law enforcement let him go home
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:20 AM
 
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Mayor Bloomberg takes a stand against controversial self-defense law - NY Daily News

Not a fan of his generally, but here I'm glad to see him use his stature as the mayor of the nation's largest city and his widespread recognition factor. PLus, of course, he is one of few pols who has supporters in both political parties.
Maybe within New York he has bipartisan support but his attempts at banning salt and supporting the Ground Zero mosque I think hurt him rather badly with the conservative crowd nationwide.

Plus, his quote that stand your ground laws are intended to promote vigilantism is a lie, pure and simple. How is not being required to run away when threatened equivalent to being a vigilante? I mean, not only is it inaccurate, but it doesn't even make logical sense. They are nowhere close to being the same thing.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:29 AM
 
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the law is nebulous, Zimmerman was released when there was no lethal threat to him, the word reasonable belief means he thought this was a dangerous person so he killed him and the law enforcement let him go home
The Florida Stand your Ground law may not apply to the Zimmerman/Martin case. Time and court results will ultimately decide that case; so, try not to deflect. The law is not nebulous, in fact, it is very clear.

Every homocide is not murder. When it is not clearly murder law enforcement must allow a person to remain free until they have the evidence to charge him/her. Or, are you arguing for arrests and unlimited detention without charges?
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