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Old 01-01-2013, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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I find those on the left often use outright lies as well as simple denial.
This is not true because I do not like it or it does not lend itself to my ideology.

But why would you want to deny your ideology?
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Debunked years ago.
You are citing threads on an internet forum - the contents of which are largely based on opinion?

I am sure that there is some facts imbedded in those threads (mostly contributed by conservatives), however I expected some more objective sources in defense of your claim.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:29 PM
 
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I find those on the left often use outright lies as well as simple denial.
This is not true because I do not like it or it does not lend itself to my ideology.

But why would you want to deny your ideology?
Why not educate yourself?
I gave you lots of ways you could do it.
I asked you for proof of your positive assertion.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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Why not educate yourself?
I gave you lots of ways you could do it.
I asked you for proof of your positive assertion.
I have Chielgirl.
At this point you are just trolling.

You make statements without any supporting information other than read posts from a forum.
I posted a link with where the DSA's own membership list is available.

Please add something relevant to the conversation or refrain from trolling.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:00 PM
 
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Another member of this forum seemed to be upset when I noted that as of 2009 70 members of Congress were members of the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America).

He demanded I prove it.
Is this something bad? If I prove it do I get some kind of points for proving it?
Does it make a difference?

Would it make a difference to you when voting for your congressional representative if they were members of the DSA?

The DSA released this information themselves and you can download it yourself if you want.
The only member of congress who has any socialist tendencies is Bernie Sanders, anyone that thinks 70 members of congress are Socialist is extremely ignorant of politics, and I'm talking 5th grade ignorance.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:05 PM
 
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The only member of congress who has any socialist tendencies is Bernie Sanders, anyone that thinks 70 members of congress are Socialist is extremely ignorant of politics, and I'm talking 5th grade ignorance.
Well your opinion is noted.
Not sure why there is such vehemence here.

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
Noun
A political and economic theory of that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated...

Doesn't this sound like where we are in the Obama Administration.
Why is this term so threatening to people on the left?

I think debate points which are basically, "uh-huh, if you believe that you're ignorant" are at the risk of being redundant, rather ignorant.

Also - why should I doubt the DSA's own membership list?
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:08 PM
 
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Well your opinion is noted.
Not sure why there is such vehemence here.

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
Noun
A political and economic theory of that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated...

Doesn't this sound like where we are in the Obama Administration.
Why is this term so threatening to people on the left?

I think debate points which are basically, "uh-huh, if you believe that you're ignorant" are at the risk of being redundant, rather ignorant.

Also - why should I doubt the DSA's own membership list?
That' not socialism, not sure where you got that definition from, The Blaze or WND??

If that is socialism, virtually every nation, aside from Somalia is Socialist, virtually every American President has been socialist, including your beloved Reagan.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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That' not socialism, not sure where you got that definition from, The Blaze or WND??

If that is socialism, virtually every nation, aside from Somalia is Socialist, virtually every American President has been socialist, including your beloved Reagan.
I'm not sure about the Blaze but WND is a fairly reliable source of information.
That said however, the definition came from wikipedia, yes perhaps not the most staunch of sources but surely not a bastion of right wing ideology either.

And yes your statement about virtually every president including Reagan working cooperatively with a socialist paradigm is accurate however much more so today than 30 years ago.

Again though, I note that you also add nothing of value to the conversation other than, "uh-huh, that isn't so". Do you have anything of relevance to say?
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Why not educate yourself?
I gave you lots of ways you could do it.
I asked you for proof of your positive assertion.
You are admonishing others to become educated?

LMAO!
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:17 PM
 
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I'm not sure about the Blaze but WND is a fairly reliable source of information.
That said however, the definition came from wikipedia, yes perhaps not the most staunch of sources but surely not a bastion of right wing ideology either.

And yes your statement about virtually every president including Reagan working cooperatively with a socialist paradigm is accurate however much more so today than 30 years ago.

Again though, I note that you also add nothing of value to the conversation other than, "uh-huh, that isn't so". Do you have anything of relevance to say?
No, that's not wikipedia's definition,

This is YOUR definition.

besides, anyone can contribute to wikipedia but it doesn't matter because like I said, it's not their definition, and WMD is a rag
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